Speed vs. cast

[2treks]

Originally posted by Kevin Dill:
None of this really matters....if you hit the dreaded "void".

     

So Kevin, Are you suggesting that there is a "void"
This sounds like another thread topic.
"void or no void"

"Lock down or no lock down"

"Speed vs. cast"

Questions such as this will bewilder the simple hunting archer till the end of days.
OH wait,I mean the technical archer.  

I remember when Allen compounds came out. They were testing them for speed at an archery shop. as it turned out my Black Widow 41 pound field target bow shot considerably faster than that Allen compound. The man gave a real simple explanation. "Everyone  knows that it takes a while for the arrow shot from the compound to get up to its full speed." That's right he was feeding us pure B.S., problem was that most of the archers there believed him.
 Question I have is why do some bows shoot better with hefty arrows better than other other bows shooting the same hefty arrow? some seem to be lugged out with a heavy arrow while others handle them with ease. As example, my target BW compared to a Jack Howard of close to the same pull.  In that case I would say the Jack Howard had better cast with the heavy arrow, while with the moderate target arrows the Black Widow had more speed.  In some longbows, while they don't slow down as much with super heavy shafts, due to the weight of the limbs in relation to the weight of the arrow, they also don't like very stiff heavy arrows, which most of the time makes it a wash. I have seen longbows, John Schulz built, that gained efficiency sooner with moderately heavy arrows and ended up gaining speed over another normally faster bow, once again I would call that better cast.

[Kevin Dill]

Chuck...

You read me spot-on. I've never baited turkeys...but bowhunters....well, maybe!

I jest-fully made my comment because a number of us believe in things which are simply disproved by science, physics, anatomy or physiology.

'Cast' (really distance) is the end result of 'bow launches arrow' and has a very large number of variables involved in the result. One of those variables is speed, and it's usually measured at the beginning of 'bow launches arrow'. When all the other variables are eliminated (or made identical) the fastest arrow wins the day (cast).

Situations where 'slow bow' shoots farther than 'fast bow' are always attributable to inequalities in the setups.

[2treks]

[kawika b]

Originally posted by owlbait:
Yep! Somewhere in the recesses of my bonehead I had this crazy vision that a bow could be made to cast an arrow a long distance, without regard to the speed. In other words, some bows are fast, some have great cast. I "tried" to make a  (weak)connection that a flat bow would shoot flat(fast) whereas a long bow would shoot a long ways(cast). I must've failed my physics lesson on the day that was tested   :D   I'm glad that is now cleared up until some new materials and designs change the way we think.    

Bro there are so many different trains of thought when it comes to what makes an effective set-up it's a wonder we can find the time to get out into the woods... momentum, f.o.c, f.p.s, penetration, off the shelf, elevated rest, vanes, feathers, string material... so on and so forth... pretty easy to get discombobulated.

Tune it well, shoot it well and enjoy it often... they're all important.