Hey thanks for the hospitality everyone, good vibe here and already using some of the recipes from some of you, as for my bows my longbow is unknown make and my recruve is just a pse cheapy but I love it, the noise doesnt really concern me very much because every deer or animal i draw on is a very close shot, less than 20 yrds on a deer or i wont take the shot because i make my own arrows and the broadheads i use are hand made from deer fibula and penetration is sometimes an issue,I also dont like breaking a point from missing after honing it down for hours a night for a week,im looking for another bow but no one i can find offers a recurve at around 80lbs which i know is alot but my friend had one and i could hold it easy and also make longer shots with ease, my recurve is at 55#s now and yes i make my own quivers from the deer i harvest ,