sullys bowfishing stuff used to have frog point for an arrow. I tried one not much pumkin, didn't last long. If shooting in deep (arrow loosing) water get you an AMS retriever reel, plain 5/16 fiberglass shaft, and muzzy point. It will get you in the frog shooting business. If bank or shallow water shooting, any arrow with field point and you are in the frog shooting business. If you plan to do much aquatic shooting whether frogs, fish, etc you will not be disapointed in the investment of an AMS reel. Nothing out there compares. If you dont want to drill your bow electrical tape will work fine. I busted 2 bowfishing recurves one night and the fish were out and couldnt stop and I taped my retriver onto my takedown shafer silvertip and kept on shooting. If you ever get a chance to pick up a silvertip for less than $100 they make fine bowfishing bows too. So everyone doesn't think I am crazy, the reel and tape have been removed from the ST and more bowfishing bows have been acquired.