quickclot sponge and tourniquet

[J-dog]

air goes in and out - blood goes round and round -

any deviation to the above is an issue!   :D  

I could not imagine hunting back country, or any anywhere without some basic emergency med knowledge and equipment - whether basic bleeding/shock control to CPR. You crew that head out into those western mountains in the fall need be packing, and know how/when to use pressuer/elevation down to the last resorts quicklot/tourniquet.

Learn situations as you say -- If I was to fall on my arrow, catch an artery?? pull it out or leave and bandage it in place??

Trying to think of another situation? anywhoo you get the idea - not about being fearful but being prepared! talk to some paramedics maybe good docs though medics are better experienced in the "field/real" world, they will be glad to talk you through some situations.

Saw a young man lose a leg in a motorcycle wreck, and he did not rate a tourniquet, did not bleed severly at all, bandage and pressure squared him away just never know so be prepared.

Chief

I think another good point you made about the lost arm, how far you were from help. I have been on ambie runs with severe bleeding but we were only coupole miles from the ER - chose not to tourniquet just control the bleeding with pressure/elev basics as the ER was so close. Where I work we are close to the ER, where your injury occured you would not have survived without the tournie!

[Kevin Dill]

Anyone thinking about using a tourniquet does need to realize one very important overall concept: Tourniquets are used to preserve life, at the expense of limb (if necessary). They are not a convenience or way to reduce non-life-threatening bleeding. They must only be brought into play when the situation calls for their use in order to prevent imminent or potential death. Their use by an improperly informed or trained person can (not always) result in unnecessary severe injury. Like all advanced first-aid and emergency techniques, knowledge is the ultimate key to correct use.

[trad_bowhunter1965]

I carry Para cord about 30 feet it is tied to everything. I never thought about getting real tourniquet I also carry a well supply fist aid kit.

[flightmedic]

lets not forget the most important item to have a cell phone to call for help, pretty sure once you apply a tourniquet your not going to feel or be able to hop up and walk yourself out of the woods?

[sledge]

you got cellphone coverage where you hunt?

i don't.

the most important item? a CELLPHONE?

is this what we have come to?

not i, sir. not i.

joe

[rastaman]

Yes a cellphone...I never leave home without it. Or my first aid kit.

[Kevin Dill]

In this age of technology, there's little reason not to be in communication with assistance if disaster strikes. My cell phone goes to the treestand. A satellite phone goes with me (us) to Alaska and other remote locations. In addition, a year ago I bought a new ACR Electronics PLB (Personal Locator Beacon) which travels with me. I mainly do these things out of respect for family, and my desire to protect them as much as myself.

[flightmedic]

sledge i know what your thinking, not to traditional. but in doing my job as a flight medic i have yet to see anybody that has had that amount of significant trauma, be able to maintain total composure to apply a torniquet and then figure out how to get themselves out of the mess they are in. not even sayig the vast and beautifull area you are blessed to live and hunt. cant imagine trying to walk out of the back country with a tourniquet tied to my leg.

[sledge]

i'm sorry i put it that way, flight medic-

i should have just said self-reliance comes 1st, to me.

joe

[Smallwood]

Had to use the quickclot sponge on my oldest son (17yo)last year in camp when he missed the stick he was chopping with a hatchet and instead chopped off the end of his left thumb!
Applied the quickclot sponge with pressure and had him elevate it above his heart while we drove the 20 miles into Gunnison, Colorado to the emergency room to get stitches.
The stuff worked like a charm!