shooting vanes like fred eichler?

[ericmerg]

has anyone got any tips for shooting 4" vanes off the shelf well?

The only way I have ever seen it done is off an elevated rest. I think I have read where a few have figured out how to make it work off the shelf but The only ones I have seen have been using a flipper rest or something similar.

Bisch

[ericmerg]

i seem to have 1 arrow flying at 15 yards pretty well with my 200 grn heads i love to use

[Bldtrailer]

Fred shoots cock feather in maybe that's how he does it.

[Guru]

I was just shooting with Fred a couple weeks ago and he was shooting feathers. Same as he was 2 years ago when I shot with him.

But he does shoot with an elevated rest, so I'm sure he can shoot vanes whenever he wants/needs.

Elevated rest is the key to shooting vanes WELL....

[swampthing]

On Masters of the Bare-bow, I remember him explaining that he kept a "vane'd" arrow or two in the uiver just in case it rained heavily. If his feathered shafts were getting matted down out came the vanes and cock feather in it was.

[Steve O]

Eichler is a pretty smart guy...

[Bill Carlsen]

Curt: I didn't see Fred's bow at the shoot. Do you remember what rest he was using?

[ron w]

Fred said on MBB that he shot cock feather in with vanes......

I shoot cock feather in with Blazer 2" vanes and get good flight off the shelf with the rest narrow and to the outside of the shelf.

[mark land]

Fred shoots off a padded shelf, I have never seen him shoot a elevated rest and he does shoot cock fletch in which he claims gives him good flight with vanes.  Gonna try it sometime when I get some new shafts that I can spine correctly.
Curt don't know what you were thinking but the Buffalo is setup to shoot off the shelf like Fred likes his bows setup???

[mickeys4]

After reading this post on my last Wally World visit I picked up a carbon 45-55 arrow with 2" vanes for $4.50. I told the checker I only intended to kill one deer this year and this single arrow would suffice. Yea ,I'm a wiseguy sometimes, a privilege that comes with your senior pass. I've been shooting this arrow out of my 45# Grizzly with a zwickey head and I can't believe how good it shoots. Straight as an arrow.I'll have to try a broadhead on it to see if it'll be good for a rainy day. If nothing else it makes a good stumping arrow.

[AkDan]

if you read Bill Matlocks manual (if you're lucky enough to have one), he goes through shooting vanes off the shelf.

[Panzer]

Read an article in TBM a few years back about a guy that was shooting plastic fletch right off of the shelf of his longbow. He said all he had to do was raise the knocking point to achieve good arrow flight. Maybe you can find the article

[Jason R. Wesbrock]

Originally posted by ericmerg:
has anyone got any tips for shooting 4" vanes off the shelf well?

Yes. Put an elevated rest on your shelf. Shoot your vanes off that.

[Stone Knife]

I shoot vanes off a flipper rest, works great.

[tuscarawasbowman]

Maybe I am wrong but didn't Paul Shafer(sp?) shoot vanes off elevated rest also?

[BowDiddle]

Originally posted by tuscarawasbowman:
Maybe I am wrong but didn't Paul Shafer(sp?) shoot vanes off elevated rest also?

Yes he did.

Just a while back I had a fella talk me through how to set up for shooting vanes off the shelf. I was amazed at how well it works. They shoot just as good as feathers.

He shoots vanes exclusively (off the shelf), but I'm not quite ready to commit to them totally.

Pat

[DannyBows]

There was an article in the TBM years ago where the author shot vanes off the shelf by raising the nock point. If I remember right he ended up with an extremely high nock point, but he said his arrows flew perfect with vanes.