I raised three boys, (LimbLover is my oldest) with all 3 I was always envolved with their activities, sports etc! Now 2 are married, one almost is, they all are college educated (more than me) and doing fairly well! All 3 are good people with good values! When they were young sometimes I had to make decisions and actions that did not make me and my wife very popular with my kids, thats parenting, and believe me I had plenty of those times along the way!Now that they are older and I have 2 grandkids it great to here them say " Man Dad you were so right about that" only now have we become more like friends but they all come to me and my wife for advice we don't always agree but thats still being a parent! I see too much of this "I am my kids best friend" with younger parents today, for some reason they are worried about not being liked by their kids! Toughest thing in the world is to be a parent and make that tough decision that you know when make it, you are NOT going to be very well liked! Thats parenting, its the toughest job in the world!