What ever happened to a Cedar arrow & 125gr BH

[Ibow]

Originally posted by Shedrock:
 
330# bear taken down with my wimpy 52# longbow, light cedar shaft tipped with a 125 grain 3 blade. This was a pass-through. I have 100% confidence in cedar arrows and 125 gr heads. All my bows love 9-10 grains per pound, and cedar and other wood arrows with 125-160 up front does the trick.

Just sitting here reading through some old threads while I wait for our grandkids to wake up and this sure was an interesting one to say the least.

Bottom line for me is, I want consistency in my set up so that when those shooting slumps come from time to time, I know it's me and not the occasional arrow or two that's not matching up with the rest.

Besides all that stuff, Shedrock, this is the second pict of your bear I've seen and again, just wanted to say congrats one more time. THAT is a beautiful bear!    

[Cyclic-Rivers]

they break pretty easy   :rolleyes:  

 

[ron w]

What ever happened to cedars and 125 gr. broadheads, nothing.....they are still in my quiver!

I bought some very old tapered cedars with late 50s style Bear 4 blades. These arrows are tapered for half of their length and are the most perfect cedars I have ever seen. They fly out of three of my longbows and they are going turkey hunting next spring.

[Sean B]

That's what I'll be shooting outta my red wing hunter

[bentpole]

Desert Dude, I'm with you!     Cedars and 125 gn field points/broadheads are alive and well here in Jersey. Right along side some Sitka Spruce and Dougie Firs. Wood is always more quiet to me than carbons too.  

[Keefer]

I've just started tinkering with carbons in the last 6 months and I'm already looking back at my woodies and Zwicky heads..Something magical about wooden arrows and takes more time making them up but I have a blast spending time in my shop tapering,straightening,dipping and fletching them up..Seems now I try to do everything in a weekend cause we live in a fast forward 100 mile an hour world...Reminds me of the 75 mile an hour speed limit signs..What's wrong with driving 30 mile an hour on a backroad scanning fields just before sunset?

[ti-guy]

They are like drugs,it starts as soon as you open the package,you're done!You're hooked!It has passed thru your nostril and lungs and the information is stocked into your brain. Then once you break it,it continues! You take the broken arrow and bring it right under your nose,they smell SOOOOO GOOOD!!!          

At the Coon Rapids shoot, when someone would destroy a carbon on a tree everyone would pull a face like they smelled a do-do. When someone would shatter a cedar on the same tree they would pick up the broken pieces and smell it. I had to chuckle about carbon shooter that asked me "Why cedar?" I handed him a piece of one my shattered arrows and 20 minutes later he was still walking around with it and sniffing it while he was waiting his turn to shoot.

[Knawbone]

I think a well balanced arrow penetrates most efficiently because it centers and delivers the enertia Not just to the point or b/h, but to the forward section of the shaft. The result of such an arrow upon impact keeps it driving straight, there by increasing penetration. A forward weighted arrow hits more like a bullet, and like a bullet becomes more easily deflected from its entrance path, there by losing penetration and enertia. This lose is countered by an increase in mass Weight. Both schools of thought work here. Personally I prefer a well balanced wooden arrow with a 125 to 160 grn. b/h for my N. american game hunting as it provides a flatter trajectory out of my medium weight bows. Just my theory on the subject.

[ti-guy]

Originally posted by pavan:
At the Coon Rapids shoot, when someone would destroy a carbon on a tree everyone would pull a face like they smelled a do-do. When someone would shatter a cedar on the same tree they would pick up the broken pieces and smell it. I had to chuckle about carbon shooter that asked me "Why cedar?" I handed him a piece of one my shattered arrows and 20 minutes later he was still walking around with it and sniffing it while he was waiting his turn to shoot.

Does that mean you were their cedar arrow pusher that day ?  :D    

[TSP]

I'm the nostalgic type, which is why wood arrows and old-style bows are my favorite gear.  I'd like to think there's still some traditional left in traditional archery.  As good as they might shoot and as long as they might last I simply don't see much that is traditional about carbon arrows.  That's why I don't hunt with them.  Hunting with a traditional bow gives me great pleasure.  It would lose alot of it's luster if the last thing I did before settling in to my deer stand was pulling a plastic arrow from my quiver.  It's not a bother for many people, but it would be for me.  

Along with avoiding electronic aides and getting 'up close' before shooting, for me making and using old-school arrows for hunting just makes for a much, much richer traditional experience.

[Knawbone]

TSP, you forgot the AMEN  

[Bill Carlsen]

Posted by "sunset hill"...."if you were to perchance miss the vitals on a big game animal and the arrow stays in the animal, cedar or other lightweight woods have a very good chance of breaking off as the animal runs through the woods, and the resulting wound can heal. With Carbon's toughness, will it break off? NO WAY, it must stay in the animal, moving around inside the flesh, festering, etc until it finally is stressed to the breaking point, or the animal dies of infection. Not my idea of a humane, hunting method if you realize that we all make poor shots now and then."

I, personally, cannot think of a single animal that hasn't broken a carbon shaft that didn't penetrate completely. This year  I killed two turkeys and 3 deer with carbon arrows. One deer and turkey were pass thrus. The others were not and I have 3 broken carbons sitting on my counter.  While carbons are very tough when it comes to head on shots they seem to me to break very easily when they are bumped against a tree or if a turkey flaps its wings with the arrow protruding out both sides. One of the broken arrows was a full metal jacket!