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Author Topic: Switching to carbons?  (Read 466 times)

Offline britt

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Re: Switching to carbons?
« Reply #20 on: November 01, 2012, 08:09:00 AM »
Thanks again for all the help. I talked to RMSGear and Iam going down to their shop for more hands on help. It sounds like it will be worth the hr. drive.
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Offline Tajue17

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Re: Switching to carbons?
« Reply #21 on: November 01, 2012, 09:02:00 AM »
29" Heritage 150's with 100grain brass insert and 125 heads should be pretty close if not perfect in weight and spine...

I have a skinny SBD string on  another bow that used that same arrow setup before the string and I had to bump to heritage 250's with everythign else the same so yeah a carbon tuning kit will help..
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Offline mrjsl

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Re: Switching to carbons?
« Reply #22 on: November 01, 2012, 09:53:00 AM »
In my experience, the spine and length of the arrow matter far more than point weight.

Best advice I can give you is try to find one that is too weak and start working from there. It's very easy to find one that is too stiff.

Offline FJTOYMAN

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Re: Switching to carbons?
« Reply #23 on: November 01, 2012, 11:33:00 AM »
I've used Carbon Express Heritage for years. They are relatively cheap and tough. Some have been refletched multiple times. the 150 spine with at least 145gn tip should work great for you.

Offline eflanders

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Re: Switching to carbons?
« Reply #24 on: November 01, 2012, 02:37:00 PM »
The 3555's shoot well for me and I have 47# bows, I have a 28" draw and I use 225 grains up front.  Bonebusters advice is very sound.

Offline hickstick

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Re: Switching to carbons?
« Reply #25 on: November 01, 2012, 05:36:00 PM »
the one thing you didn't not mention is what you are thinking for points.  if you're looking into the carbons to try the increased or extreme FOC...then you 'might' need heavier than the 35/55s as adding a lot of weight to the front end changes the dynamic spine quite a bit.

personally I'm shooting a 56# widow and 58# homemade longbow and I'm, shooting vapor carbonwoods 3000s which are .400 spine (equal to the GT 55/75), with 350 grains up front.  100grain brass insert, 125 grain WW head and 125 grain screw in adaptor.  and the .400 spine at 29 inches shoots great out of both bows.

I just ordered GT trads for the first time (today) so I'm gonna have to experiment a little on whether that weight up front is gonna react the same on the different shaft.   we'll see.
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Offline Wheels2

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Re: Switching to carbons?
« Reply #26 on: November 01, 2012, 09:52:00 PM »
If you are going carbon, look at GoldTips.  I find them to be the toughest carbons.  Check out the Kinetics XTs.  Heavy and tough in a small diameter shaft.
In the standard diameter (.296") they offer point inserts that allow for adding additional weight.
It's a tough call.  Carbon is straight but you have to check for cracks and dings.  Cedar is not really straight or consistant in weight when compared to carbons, but they fly really well and I just love the smell of them as I taper the points.
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Offline Richie

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Re: Switching to carbons?
« Reply #27 on: November 01, 2012, 10:39:00 PM »
Britt, I shoot about the same # you and I use a 28" 3555 gt with 225 gr.s up front. Shoots great.
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Offline JohnnyWayne

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Re: Switching to carbons?
« Reply #28 on: November 02, 2012, 06:01:00 AM »
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Originally posted by JamesKerr:
I would go with the Arrow Dynamics trad light series shafts. You will never find an easier shaft to tune!
Much agreed    :thumbsup:
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Offline Fanto

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Re: Switching to carbons?
« Reply #29 on: November 02, 2012, 06:07:00 AM »
3555s will work for you, they are tough shafts.

If you use 100gr brass inserts you will suffer fewer breakages because the inserts are much longer and this seems to help.

I have a 55lb recurve and used to use 3555s. they are underspined for a cut to centre 55# bow even with 130gr points. On the other hand they are perfect on a 60lb longbow (predator) which is cut before centre, with 225 up front. centre cut makes a huge difference. If you want to shoot roughly 500gr or less start with 3555 if you want to shoot over 600gr maybe full length 5575s

Offline ddauler

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Re: Switching to carbons?
« Reply #30 on: November 02, 2012, 03:51:00 PM »
3555 should work.
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Offline amar911

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Re: Switching to carbons?
« Reply #31 on: November 02, 2012, 10:48:00 PM »
I am also an AD Trad fan. The Trad Lites or Hammerhead Lites are very spine tolerant and shoot very well out of bows in your weight range. If you don't believe the rest of us, ask Terry Green. There are lots of other good carbon arrows, but most of them are much more trouble to tune.

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Offline kp

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Re: Switching to carbons?
« Reply #32 on: November 10, 2012, 10:37:00 AM »
Hey Britt, not sure if you will see this or not.
If you do, try Stu Millers Spine Calculator.
OR.....go to 3Rivers they have a simple version of his spine calculator. It is an amazing tool. I have several bows including one LB and use the same shafts for all of them.....all I do is change the weights/length. For example I use Gold Tips Traditional and Carbon Express Heritage - I can use them on any bow I have just by varying the weights and length - for hunting or 3D/target etc.  Peace
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Offline kp

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Re: Switching to carbons?
« Reply #33 on: November 10, 2012, 11:00:00 AM »
Hey Britt, not sure if you will see this or not.
If you do, try Stu Millers Spine Calculator.
OR.....go to 3Rivers they have a simple version of his spine calculator. It is an amazing tool. I have several bows including one LB and use the same shafts for all of them.....all I do is change the weights/length. For example I use Gold Tips Traditional and Carbon Express Heritage - I can use them on any bow I have just by varying the weights and length - for hunting or 3D/target etc.  Peace
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Online toddster

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Re: Switching to carbons?
« Reply #34 on: November 11, 2012, 12:11:00 PM »
Not me, I have Carbon arrows and to me my wood shafts have better penatration and I can build them as nice as I want, custom.

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