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Offline Knawbone

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carbon setup
« on: December 07, 2012, 04:33:00 PM »
Well here's the deal fellow trads. I bought a half dz. Carbon Express Devils Wrath arrows because the price was right. I know absolutly nothing about setting up carbons. These arrows are 50/60 spine which I figure should be good for my 50-53 lb bows.Questions: How much wieght should I use up front? Can I get an arrow nock that will fit my strings, as their set up for woodies?(  string dia.would need to be smaller for carbon nocks }Would 5in. feathers work ok on this set up. These arrows came with plastic fletch so I figured Id' buy some cap wraps and re-fletch. Help if you can
HHA 5 lam Cheetah 65" 48@26
HHA W Special 66" 52@26
HHA W Special 68" 56@28
GN Bushbow 64" 56@29
21st Street Chinook 64" 58@28
Kota Prarie Nomad 60" 47@24
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Offline Knawbone

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Re: carbon setup
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2012, 04:35:00 PM »
Forgot to mention these will be for longbows
HHA 5 lam Cheetah 65" 48@26
HHA W Special 66" 52@26
HHA W Special 68" 56@28
GN Bushbow 64" 56@29
21st Street Chinook 64" 58@28
Kota Prarie Nomad 60" 47@24
You can do a lot of things when you have too W S Butler My Grandfather

Offline Knawbone

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Re: carbon setup
« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2012, 04:46:00 PM »
Also, these arras are 9.9 gpi and I shoot about a 27in. arrow. Thanks everyone, I build and tune all my woods but have a lot of questions for the carbons.
HHA 5 lam Cheetah 65" 48@26
HHA W Special 66" 52@26
HHA W Special 68" 56@28
GN Bushbow 64" 56@29
21st Street Chinook 64" 58@28
Kota Prarie Nomad 60" 47@24
You can do a lot of things when you have too W S Butler My Grandfather

Offline drewsbow

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Re: carbon setup
« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2012, 06:40:00 PM »
Dave : the first thing I would do is throw any notions about length out the window. I would think you will need couple hundred grains up front to get these to fly . I use O.L. Adcocks bare shaft planning method , shoot three bare shafts against three fletched shafts to tune and let that determin length . Hope this helps. Drew
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BigJim thunderchild 55@31
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Offline refugerambler

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Re: carbon setup
« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2012, 08:08:00 PM »
My 52# recurve I shoot gt expedition hunter 55/75's with 250gr up front on a 29.5" BOP arrow. My draw is around 28".
Bear Cheyenne 55@28
Brooks Artisan 53@28

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Re: carbon setup
« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2012, 08:09:00 PM »
My 52# recurve I shoot gt expedition hunter 55/75's with 250gr up front on a 29.5" BOP arrow. My draw is around 28".
Bear Cheyenne 55@28
Brooks Artisan 53@28

Offline bamboo

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Re: carbon setup
« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2012, 08:14:00 PM »
i've set those arrows up--i'd start @200g--you'll probably need more --and like drew says don't just cut them-tune to find your length [all carbons stiffen real fast when cut]and 5" will work fine but when well tuned you can use less fletch
Mike

Offline drewsbow

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Re: carbon setup
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2012, 10:10:00 AM »
How have you been Mike ?  Nice to see ya around , great talking to ya at sawmill . Drew
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Offline bamboo

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Re: carbon setup
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2012, 05:49:00 PM »
drew

good to see you too--it was my son mikes first  time at sawmill and quite impressed to meet you and your dad doing the same thing him and his dad were doing!!by the way say hey to your dad!!
and have a good holiday!!see you guys next year at sawmill!!we'll shoot a course!1
Mike

Offline Fanto

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Re: carbon setup
« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2012, 08:00:00 AM »
knawbone,

either : set how much weight you want to use up front and start at full length, and tune from there cutting a little off at a time.

OR: if you want your arrows a set length (maybe you're a gap shooter?) cut them to that and be prepared to add lots of weight up front to soften them if required.

I subscribe to the bareshaft grouping with fletched arrows method, use this to add weight or subtract length until they all group together!

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