first off thank you vermonster13 and mike at mad dog....My daughter got her new bow by Christmas..it meant the world to her and us{picts of all to follow,I have dial up and have to download elsewhere}It was the best year so far,times are tough here but these incredible guys stepped up for my girl.....it made me think drop my wheels{you all know what I mean,my first year traditional,but BEST EVER,sold my compound to fund the rest of theholiday ,and got my 19 month old his first bopw...I promise to post picts soon just saying.....THANKS TRADGANG,Mike Mercedy and Vermonster13, traditional archery and you guys HAVE CHANGED ME...for the better.