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Author Topic: Help for a new guy  (Read 546 times)

Offline jsburden5

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Help for a new guy
« on: January 07, 2013, 10:57:00 PM »
Ok, I'm new to traditional archery and thanks to fat fingering the arrows I ordered I have a question. Is it feasible to weaken the spine on the arrows I bought by accident?
I have a Martin Jaguar #50 at 28". My draw is around 28 1/2". I'm trying to shoot XX75 2216 at 31" but every arrow is cocked nock right. I am shooting right hand with a split finger no glove. I am shooting off the shelf and have adjusted the striker both in and out with minimal success. I am shooting bare shafts and have tried field points from 100-175 grains with minimal change.
I can consistently shoot sub 3" groups and often two of three shots are touching even nicked on arrow already. Any help would be appreciated.

Offline azhunter

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Re: Help for a new guy
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2013, 11:01:00 PM »
You could add more point weight and that will weaken your arrow, but you would probably be better off with 2016's. Those 2216 are a very stiff arrow for a 50# bow.

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Re: Help for a new guy
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2013, 12:22:00 AM »
2016's def would be a lot better.  you could try something real hefty in the 225-300g point range with those 2216's but you'll lose a good bit of speed and have more of a rainbow trajectory than you would otherwise.  def best off switching arrows.  standby for the experts...
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Re: Help for a new guy
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2013, 12:27:00 AM »
js-  just plugged your specs into stu miller prog and i think you could get away with a 200-225g point.  you could try it and see what kinda trajectory/flight you get.  calculates to a nice 16% FOC.
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Offline lpcjon2

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Re: Help for a new guy
« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2013, 07:09:00 AM »
Get a glove or a tab also and your release would be more consistent, and they wont hurt after a good day of shooting. Also look at using wood for arrows or places like commercial sporting good stores(dicks)have inexpensive carbon and aluminum for around $20.00 a six.
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Offline Archie

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Re: Help for a new guy
« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2013, 05:20:00 PM »
I shoot 2117s out of a 48# @ 31" bow.  They have similar spine to a 2216.  My shafts are uncut (33.5"), and I use 175 grain heads, and I draw about 30.5".  I shot 2216s for a while and I think I shot 200-grain heads with full-length shafts.  You will need a good bit more weight to cause those 31" shafts to flex correctly.  A lighter spine would be your answer, as the extra weight really slows the arrows down.  But with enough weight up front, you could probably make the 2216s work.
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Offline jsburden5

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Re: Help for a new guy
« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2013, 09:49:00 PM »
Thanks for all the inputs. I knew more tip weight was an answer but at what cost, arrow speed and trajectory... I will likely god for new arrows and just make the ones I have radio antenna covers. I'm a redneck of course...

Offline Axis Thinner

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Re: Help for a new guy
« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2013, 10:06:00 PM »
I think I would use them for blunts for stumping, and turn half of them into flu-flus. A fellow just can't have too many arrows.

Offline RM81

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Re: Help for a new guy
« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2013, 01:35:00 PM »
Or you could get some Gold Tip Trads in 5575 and use the 2216's for footings.

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Re: Help for a new guy
« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2013, 03:44:00 PM »
throw some weight up front before you buy new arrows. You may like what you see. I think some 250 grain points would do the trick.
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Offline jsburden5

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Re: Help for a new guy
« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2013, 08:51:00 PM »
So I bought some carbons, Easton 55-75 and got a little better results with 175's. Odd part is both shafts shoot about the same. Is there something else I'm missing or am I trying to get perfect results as a novice trad shooter? Also started using a tab with three fingers under config

Offline lpcjon2

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Re: Help for a new guy
« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2013, 08:58:00 PM »
Do they have feathers or vanes? try shooting cock feather in(feather facing toward the bow).
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Re: Help for a new guy
« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2013, 08:59:00 PM »
Do they have feathers or vanes? try shooting cock feather in(feather facing toward the bow).
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difference in the world, but the Marines don’t have that problem.
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Offline jsburden5

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Re: Help for a new guy
« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2013, 10:47:00 PM »
Had vanes but I took them off. Cock feather in is something I never heard of before tho... Anything is worth trying once

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