jig for paper wheels sharpening

[alligatordond]

Sorry auto correct . "Set the head on a non spinning wheel "to make the mark

[Justin Falon]

I am sllllloooooooowwwwwwwlllllllllyyyyyyyyyy getting the visual in my mind.
Place the bevel edge on the top of the wheel while it is not spinning. Mentall mark what that looks like?

[Justin Falon]

ok. got the wheels turned around on the grinder successfully. That makes a world of difference. Put my knife blade ON TOP of the wheel at about 22 degree or so. Already I can make a really shiny clean bevel. Put the "flat" side on the slotted wheel and can really shave hair. Next up is broadhead no. 1.

The process of sharpening from "kinda sharp" to "really sharp" took about 15 seconds.

justin

[oldbohntr]

I’m a professional sharpener, and I use a paper wheel for all knives and to hone broadheads.  Before ABS started marketing the paper wheel, Ed S. asked me how it worked for me.   I told him I buy them from Woodcraft Supply and use their slow speed grinder(1700 RPM),configured to turn away from me.  I never use the gritted wheel, replacing that with a buffing wheel.   Instead I use a 1 x 30” belt sander configured to turn away from me(ALWAYS!!).     The sander uses 800 grit belts.   For broadheads, I grind with a Tormek(Swedish machine, too expensive for most home shops), and hone with the paper wheels.  
For safety’s sake, always configure your machines to turn away from you.  Even at that, if you screw a broadhead into a shaft and use too much pressure on the paper wheel, it can loosen, turn, and be thrown into the wall behind(trust me on that!)  Don’t worry about reconfiguring the grinder, just turn it around and remember that the switch is on the back!
A jig is really not necessary if your wheel is turning away from you.  Apply plenty of sharpening  compound. Hold the broadhead perfectly horizontal(it BETTER be mounted on a length of shaft!).   Top dead center on your wheel is a zero degree bevel.  Right smack at your bellybutton is 90 degrees.   45 degrees is halfway in between.  22.5 degrees is half-way from there to the top.  Take a flexible ruler and lay out the degrees on the top of the motor where it is in your vision when you sharpen.  
Then, just practice.  You can make a glass smooth edge with a paper wheel on most any un-serrated blade, once you get the feel of it.   This isn’t something you take to the field in your pack, but it’s sure a good way to start off!

[lt-m-grow]

Paper wheels rock!  Just like folks have offered, shaving sharp in seconds.

I would not worry about the angle so much.  It is simpler than may think.    

I also don't see the stress of having the wheel spin towards you as long as you grind the edge down.  Every grinder I have ever used - to grind anything - spins that way.  I would worry more about being unfamiliar with the tool by having is set up "backwards".  I also sharpen BHs on the shaft.

Centaur Archery also sells these sharpeners and Jim has a nice video on his web page on how to use it.  That's worth the trip alone.

[monterey]

I got mione from Jantz supply.  Work really well.

[Burnsie]

You can get the paper wheel system from Grizzly woodworking equipment Co. much cheaper than most places.  Woodcraft stores have them reasonable also.

[Justin Falon]

My old grizzlys were way off on the grind angle and that may be why it didn't work that well. Have not tried it on a new grizzly YET.

[BRIARS]

All my grinders have the wheels housed most of the way around. The only way to do polish with them would be with a top to bottom rotation as you stand in front of the grinder. The tool shelf could be adjusted to help create the correct angle.

Are the grinders you guys are grinding up with open wheel without housings or tool shelfs?

[Burnsie]

yep, took all the guards and tool shelfs off.

[Justin Falon]

Even I managed to put a truly scary sharp edge on my turkey heads a few minutes ago.  Wow. Look out!!!

[mj seratt]

Do you have to use the wax that comes with the wheels?  I'm about out, and the dealers want $10.00 for a small cup of it.  Could paraffin be used, although it seems to be harder than the original?

[JamesKerr]

To be totally honest it is a lot easier to maintain a consistent angle when sharpening on paper wheels than it is on a stone freehand (admittedly easy for me to do but I understand a lot of people cannot do this) I love using a paper wheel to get that final SCARY    :eek:   sharp edge on all my hunting and skinning knives. I just wish there was a way to sharpen 3 blade broadheads on them       (THEN they would be the PERFECT tool)!

[Kc kreger]

For people with a 1" belt sander I have a friend that makes a leather belt for these along with a metal jig that sets on the bar that the belt runs behind in front.  It is great for us challenged people!

I'll try to dig it out of the garage and post a picture of it.  I also know a local guy that makes and sells the paper wheels.  

Both guys sell locally and Michael who makes the leather belts for belt sanders mostly sells through large wood working company's for sharpening tools used on lathes.

I have used both on my knives but I hunt with a 3 blade broad head and have never figured out a way to utilize these 2 different tools.

[Greg Skinner]

I have the paper wheels from Grizzly Tools but I mainly just use the buffing one. I use a file to get a burr edge and then just buff it off.  You can check where you're grinding on the edge of the broadhead after a couple of passes and correct the angle if necessary just by eyeball.  After you do a few the angle is pretty ease to maintain.