Carbon express Heritage 150's vs. 90's

[Ifrit617]

I'm looking to try out the heritage arrows from carbon express and am not sure whether to get the 150's or the 90's. The shafts will be cut 28" to BOP and am looking to put either 145's or 175's up front. Total arrow weight I'm going for will be between 440-460. I'm shooting a 46# mild R/D longbow that is cut about an 1/8" of center. Which shaft should I get? Input would be great. Thanks.

Jon

[Brianlocal3]

First off carbons are a whole different beast than woodies or alums. So cutting them first is a pretty big no no. Shooting my 48lb vixen the 150s are 31" with 175 and my 90s are 30 1/4" with 145

[JRY309]

For a 46# bow cut off center the Heritage 90 would be a better fit spine wise.The 90's are a slightly smaller diameter,they 9/32".Why do you want to cut the shafts to 28" without shooting them first.I let my bareshat tuning determine the final length of my carbon arrows.I would start full length with 145 gr points and see how they fly bare before I would just cut them.Once you cut them you can't go back.I've seen plenty of used carbons for sale that were just cut to a certain length and they just would not fly good.The 90's are about 30.25" to start with.For me with carbons I don't even consider length,I let my tuning decide that.Heritage 150 I think would be too stiff,maybe even at full length of 32".

[BWD]

90's and let the bareshafting determine the length. They will come closer to giving you the total arrow weight you are looking for too.

[Ifrit617]

Thanks for the input guys. Still trying to wrap my head around how to spine carbons. More used to wood shafts.

When you tune, do you glue the inserts in and if you want to go shorter do you just cut off part of the end of the shaft that the nock inserts into and reinstall the nock? What is your method?

Jon

[awbowman]

Yes, install the inserts and cut off the nock portion of the arrow until bare shafting shows good flight.  THEN fletch an arrow and install a broadhead and see if the spine is sill OK, THEN cut all the shafts.

[buckeye_hunter]

I'm shooting 150's cut to about 30 1/2in. My recurve is right about 51 pounds at my 28 inch draw. I have 100 grain inserts in my arrows with 125 grain heads.

I would start with the 90's full length and cut them down as needed for a 46 pound bow. If you are determined to cut to 28 inches then I would definitely go with the Heritage 90's. Also, if your draw is 28 inches, I would leave them an inch longer and cut to 29 max. As said before, glue in your insert(use hotmelt in case you want to remove them), then cut nock end. Then fletch and then cut them all as said before

That's just my thoughts.

God Bless,
-Charlie

[LV2HUNT]

90s for sure and tune as noted above.

[Ifrit617]

Thanks guys will do as instructed.

Buckeye- my draw is 27" so 28" will definitely be the minimum I go

Jon

[LC]

First off carbons are a whole different beast than woodies or alums. So cutting them first is a pretty big no no

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[JRY309]

When I tune my carbons I don't glue in the inserts until I'm done tuning.I like to put arrow wraps on all my carbons and have them on when tuning.So I don't glue them in and cut from the nock end.I'll take alittle saran wrap and push the insert.The wrap will hold the insert in snug enough for shooting and tuning.But you need a softer target like a bag target that doesn't grab too tight on arrow removal.S it won't pull out the insert in the target.It's quick and easy and I have been tuning my carbons for the last four years with this method.

[Pete W]

Use 24 hr epoxy, then you won't need to start a thread about inserts coming out.

[cacciatore]

I hot glue all my inserts without many problems to loosing them in the targets,but I can change the weights inside every time I am in the needs.

[joe vt]

If you are used to shooting 28" shafts (and want a shaft close to that length) I think your best bet would be the 90's. As mentioned above you need to go through the proper tuning process.


My bows are 44-50# and I can shoot my 30" 150's with 175 up front. But I wanted a shorter arrow so I can now also shoot my 29" 90's with 125 up front.