Purchasing wood shafts with tighter Spine Ranges

[Surewood Bob]

Tony - If you really want to go to the time, trouble and money, I am
sure we here at Surewood Shafts could match up shafts as close as you want. We have never been asked to do this before, but like I said, it certainly is possible. We would need to work up a special price based on how close you want the shafts to match in both spine and mass weight. Then again, you just might want to take Snag's advise...totally up to you.  Surewood Bob

[bigbadjon]

Any shooter shooting the 6# spine variances commonly offered would notice a much better grouping with a tightly matched set. How can anyone expect to accurate if their arrows aren't matched? Tommy at RMS Gear will sell arrows of much tighter tolerances for about the same price as any other seller who doesn't match their arrows.

[chanumpa]

Well Tony,Youve had Mike Vines ,Snag,Surewood Bob,Bjorn and others cover this one.These guys have collectively done it all with wood arrows and are the best of the best when it comes to arrows.Find your spine range,and order some surewoods.They are awesome shafts.

[Flying Dutchman]

Have you ever spined carbon shafts??? I found differences as big as 7 lbs on a .500 carbon shaft batch.....

[UrbanDeerSlayer]

Thanks for all the input. Part of starting this thread was to see how many guys shoot tighter spine groups. I hear some guys who spine them and match em up within the set, and others that just shoot em and if there's a wild one they cast it aside. I've been shooting the Surewoods and a few others but so far the Surewoods are the straightest, and are all accurately spined and weight matched. My current 6 Surewoods that I'm shooting are matched within 6g of weight. I've been retuning my set up and have one set of 3 Surewoods flying like darts! It just seems that tuning wood shafts takes a little more time and care, which is part of the fun!

[Fletcher]

With paper tuning, I have found that 3 pound spine groups will produce bullet holes and outside of that I can start to see left/right tears at 6 feet.  Fletching straightens things up pretty quick.  When building arrows I keep my spines as close as possible, but always within a true 5 lb group, ie 65-69 lb.  Paul Jalon at Elite Arrows typically sells his arrows in 3 lb spine groups.  It takes a BUNCH of shafts to group them that close for spine and 10 grains weight, esp with fir.  Fir can vary over 150 grains in a given spine.

[ddauler]

You can certainly get them if you are willing to pay for them. My two cents....I have an old friend who won the World Longbow Shoot I witnessed most of it and the shoot off. He had a plastic kid quiver with 4 ramin wood dowels for arrows. That said it is nice to have good matched arrows but acurracy is in the archer. I have watched many many shooters in the last 30 years and the best ones I have seen never never blamed equipment actually the best ones usually had terrible equipment. But they were great shots with poorly spined arrows.

[Bud B.]

FWIW,

I got a 1/2 doz test kit from magnus of Turkey Flight Traditional. The test kit was made up 29" BOP, 125gr heads, and 4" shield fletching spined 40, 44, 46, 49, 53, 55.

The 49# flew the best from my Dave Johnson longbow. With the 46 and 53 I saw different flight and arrow wobble after many shots downrange. The 49# was spot on. I PM'd Matt and asked him to make me a 1/2 doz of his poplar shaft arrows spined 48-50 range. He made them up all spined at 49. The arrows arrived and I put 125gr Magnus 2 blades on them and went to the BH target. Flight was near perfect. I switched the arrow on the string to cock feather in and now they fly perfectly.

I am not a great shooter, but I am picky about an arrow's flight from the bow that has no wobble. Magnus at Turkey Flight Traditional gave me those arrows.

Thanks Matt.

[Craig]

Try barrelled shafts for target shooting and watch the difference.

[grayfeather]

buy them by the hundred and spine them yourself.Wood arrows spine in 5 # groups, carbon in 20# also consider what kind of wood you are using and ,try 4 fletch, they stabilize faster, burn your own feathers, develope a feather shape.You want a good arrow look at the whole arrow.Or try some of mine !

[monterey]

Originally posted by UrbanDeerSlayer:
Trying to get more consistent wood shafts in order to obtain better flight.  Most suppliers sell shafts in ranges such as 45-50, 50-55, etc...  

What if I only want shafts around 53#? Will any suppliers sell a dozen shafts spined at lets say 52-54#?

go here:    RMS    and inquire by phone.  The carry 11/32 compressed cedar and typically group them very close both weight and spine wise.  They would probably be happy to put a set together that exactly meets your specs.  

Really great people to do business with!  

[Dave Lay]

i'm no master like some of these guys but something to check, be sure your nock orientation is the same for each shaft as well, that being a little off,will effectively change the shafts spine

[UrbanDeerSlayer]

go here:    RMS    and inquire by phone.  The carry 11/32 compressed cedar and typically group them very close both weight and spine wise.  They would probably be happy to put a set together that exactly meets your specs.  

Really great people to do business with!    [/QB][/QUOTE]

According to their website they spine them in 3# ranges, example 50-52#, and closely weight match. But they don't list types of shafts or supply, so a phone call is in order. Thanks

[UrbanDeerSlayer]

Originally posted by Dave Lay:
i'm no master like some of these guys but something to check, be sure your nock orientation is the same for each shaft as well, that being a little off,will effectively change the shafts spine

Thanks. I checked that and one shaft's nock was glued on at a very slight angle so I fixed it. And another I rotated slightly.  Both shafts are flying much better.

[David Yukon]

Really good info! A little to tight of tolerance to me but it is a lot of good info for sure!