I like using the jewel stick with the clamp but you do wear done the clamp. I killed a buck, doe and 2 hogs this year with Intercertors! All were passthroughs except the doe, I broke 2 ribs going in but I still had a exit hole. I killed both pigs with the same head without touching it up, shot the first pig on friday with a complete passthrough then shot the next pig on saturday with a pass through! I could still pop hair off my arm with the broadhead after going through 2 pigs. I love Simmons heads!