Big Jim Buffalo Help?

[pamike]

I just picked up a buff off the classified and got to shoot it last night for a little while.  I was told BH between 7 1/4" - 7 3/4".  i tried that entire range and the bold still had quite a bit of hand shock.  This is my first 2 piece LB, but i was told these bows should have no hand shock.  It has way more hand shock than any of my other bows (3pc).  i am shooting 3 under with MFX 400 arrows at around 50#.  

ANy suggestions on what would be causing this?

thanks
mike

[Rick Richard]

I would suggest calling Big Jim since he is the bowyer and understands his product better than anyone else.

[Zradix]

X2

[OBXarcher]

I have one same specs. 7.5 brace ht. I shoot MFX 340 full length. 250 up front. Shoots great. Little thump but no diff than my BW pl

[pamike]

i think i figured this out, while a Buffalo a a great bow in many ways - as for hand shock that bow design is just not as shock free as a Habu Vyperkahn or an Eagle Wing Talon.  i dont want people to think this is uncomfortable, but it is a big difference from what i am used to.

mike

[hybridbow hunter]

Mine a 66" has also a bit of hand shock  but nothing terrible. I shoot it close to 8" as BH and arrow in the 11,5 gpp range.

Pamike, what about your lynx LB ? Is it shock free? I am planning to get a LB limb set fot my lynx riser

[pamike]

Lynx is VERY shock free and ohhh so quiet.

[Flatshooter]

Big Jim may want to jump in here. I have owned several of his bows and in dealing with the big guy   I have always found him to be patient and extremely helpful. Perhaps he could comment on the hand shock  concern relative to bh and arrow weight.

[RC]

I`ve shot a few of the Big fellers bows that friends own and none had noticable handshock. They are gonna have more of a bump than a three piece because of the weight in the riser of a three piece. The one I shot a Buddies Dad owned shot sweet enough I tried to trade him my new Widow PL for it on the spot.RC

[pamike]

Maybe I am missing something?

[xtrema312]

I had one and it had a good thump to it, but not what I call hand shock.  Hand shock to me is more the vibration stuff not just forward movement in the bow. I did like a heavier arrow and closer to 8" brace height.  I have shot a couple other buffs that were more mild to shoot than the one I had.

[BigJim]

pamike, you are comparing a RD "longbow" relatively small riser and light weight bow to recurve risers with longbow limbs. They have considerable more mass and material to absorb vibration. I have no idea how  heavy of an arrow you are shooting from this bow....and yes, it's probably the same arrow you are shooting out of your other bows  (apples and oranges).

I shoot all my bows with bow quivers as I feel it is the most practical way to cary hunting arrows. I rarely ever shoot without one, so in the rare event that I do, the bow seems to have more vibration due to the major loss of weight and that I'm used to a heavier bow.

All bows have "shock" some more and some less due to design (yes, even dead in the hand bows have shock, it's just not as noticeable due to the shooters experience). If you are sensitive to shock, the best bet is to shoot a bow heavy enough to bring the shock level in to a non issue situation. Shooting a heavier arrow and tuning brace height will also help.

The differences between one bow and another of the same make may also be due to different woods used and overall mass weight. Heavier denser woods absorb more left over energy. Also, different draw lengths/different draw weights in comparison to different draw lengths will affect shock. For instance, if you choose a bow that is longer than one that gives you optimum performance for your draw(comparing exact same models just different lengths) you will have less hand shock as you won't be loading it with as much energy. The longer it is, the less energy (remember, I mean longer than optimum for your draw.

If I can help Pamike, give me a call. I may have a little more time on my hands now as I have less Buffalo's to make.  
BigJim

[pamike]

Jim thanks for the reply. I really dont think you will have anything to worry about with people wanting more Buff's!!!!

I need to go on the record to say my review of this bow.  This bow is built like a tank.  i could not believe the build quality and the solidness of the bow - very impressed.  The bow is Macassar Ebony and it is stunning to look at.  Hence why i had to try this bow.  I have never owned a 2pc LB and i have always wanted to try one.  Based on reviews on here i thought this one must be the best! So i made the decision to give it a go.

This bow hits where i am aiming and throws an arrow with authority.  The bow is quiet on the shot.  The bow draw very smooth to my 30" draw length.

My only comment was around the felt "shock" on the shot.  Having never shot a bow like this it was definitely different in feel and i just wanted to make sure that i was setting it up correctly and using the right weight arrows.  Please do not read too much into my comment.  I think Jim makes it clear that simply different style bows and different feel.

I did shoot this bow last night with a quiver and the additional mass weight made the bow feel more normal to me.  

also the bow is 62" and i draw it 30" - the bow has no stack and sooo smooth all the way to 30".  most of my bows are 64" but this one is very nice at 62" - probably cause the riser is much shorter on this style bow.

Mike

[NBK]

My 3 piece longbows have always been "deader" upon release, like Jim said, simply due to mass weight.  That said, I still prefer a one or two piece bow and strap on a bowquiver if I want to tame it more.  I'm envious of your Mac Ebony Buffalo!

[Trumpkin the Dwarf]

Just send it to me and the hand shock/thump will vanish for you!  

[Chad Orde]

I have two Buffalos a 60" take down and a 62" one piece brace is around 8" on the take down 60" and 7 5/8" on the 62" I draw 29" and shoot with no quiver. String material did make a difference for me I prefer the SBD skinny strings. I shoot gold tip arrows blems and 175 up front. I have very little hand shock even with no quiver on. Play with the brace height and string material if made my Buff's even better which I didn't think they could be.
Happy Hunting

[pamike]

I will try the skinny string. Couple people said that.

[Shawn Leonard]

I would also bump the BH nearer to 8"s. I have never owned one but have shot a few and all had little to no handshock. I think some more tuning and you should be fine. Shawn

[hybridbow hunter]

I just spent part of the afternoon shooting my buffalo it Is 61# @31" and 66" braced at 8" and 10 strand SBDbowstring .  There Is a very little forward jump more than a real hand kick but nothing more. Thus this bow allows a very good accuracy and consistency and deserve good words
Plus mine is a real jewel and a killer.
Really a good bow and all i was expecting from Big Jim.