Where you hunting? Deep wilderness? Otherwise, bugling is generally poison ... not only to your own hunt, but to everyone else's too. "Bugle pollution" we call it ... too many new elk hunters who've watched too many videos made by folks selling bugles and "hunting" on private land and worse. Early '80s, it was magic. Now, it's mostly poison. Exceptions only prove the rule. Don't bugle at all. Cow call only sparingly and know why and when you do. Forget the "hyper" stuff and go for the "all is OK" very modest coalesence calls ... soft, quiet, brief mews. Honest and long-experienced advice, offered with best intent. Whatever. Dave