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Offline TraditionalGuy

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Raptor Archery
« on: May 23, 2013, 06:02:00 PM »
This review may be a bit long-winded, but it is also long overdue. I first met Ted from Raptor Archery sometime around 1998 or so. I had switched over from aluminum arrows to wood arrows and had purchased half a dozen cedars from one of those archery stores that have about five square feet of inventory space set aside for traditional archery. I then took them to the range with an older Pearson Jaguar recurve I had obtained to replace a long used, but retired, Martin, that I had  had quite a bit of success with. As it turns out, the half dozen arrows must have had a ton of spine variation, poor craftsmanship, or both judging by the poor shot groups I was getting. Now I’m by no means an exceptional shot, but I was certainly not that bad. I figured it was either the arrows or the bow, but something had to change. So I did a little research and found this store out in Hood River Oregon, called Raptor Archery, that specialized in traditional archery gear. I took an aesthetically pleasing drive from Portland to this Raptor Archery and was welcomed with a vision beyond my wildest dreams. The walls were adorned with dozens and dozens of traditional bows of all shapes and sizes; modern bows, bows of yesteryear, and even a few artifacts; self bows and lams; long bows, short bows and recurves; a glass case filled with arrow heads made from flint and obsidian, indeed a sight to behold.

   I spent the next few hours talking with Ted about bows and arrows and all things archery. I learned that the wood arrows I was using were underspined for my recurve, if they were accurately spined at all that is. I purchased a dozen arrows on the spot with Ted’s signature “Raptor Cut” feathers and used those arrows to great success. Over the years, I made sure to replenish my arrow stock only through Raptor Archery, and always promised myself (and Ted a few times) that I would purchase one of his hand-made works of art. The time had come when I finally had enough money put away to follow through on my pledge. This was around 2006. I spoke with Ted over the phone, as I had relocated to California. We had several conversations over the next few weeks and designed the perfect bow for me. It was a bamboo backed, yew core, reflex/deflex 66 inch longbow with a 65# pull at 27 inches. To this day, that is the best shooting, and best looking bow I have ever shot. It is still my main hunting bow and will most likely be as long as I am able to pull her back. (I’ll post some pictures in a follow up post later).

   Well like all bow owners, especially those that visit this forum, one bow is never enough. I have since purchased several more of Ted’s masterpieces and haven’t had a thing to complain about yet. It was in a conversation with Ted that led me to TradGang in the first place. I was of course immediately hooked and have been ever since. One day, while perusing the classified ads, I came across a Ted Fry bow for sale. The owner, Shane H (thanks Shane) had no idea when it was made or what kind of wood it was comprised of, having obtained it from another shooter. Even still, I knew I had to have it. So I jumped on the post and was fortunate enough to get the first offer in. It turns out the bow was made of vine maple and was another work of art. Unfortunately, the handle had a bit of wear and tear from use and the tiller was slightly off. I called Ted and he said to ship it back for him to take a look.

This is where the store gets really interesting. Ted couldn’t remember who he made the bow for originally, but he certainly remembered that particular bow. In short order, he fixed the tiller and handle back to working order and only lost 10 pounds from the original pull weight. The only issue was matching the stain. Ted had used that particular stain on only one bow ever: mine. That particular stain is no longer in production, so Ted had to dig through all of his old gear to find the original stain, which happened to solidify over the years. With his usual fervent craftsmanship, he chipped away at the stain, mixed it with solvent bit by bit, and applied what he could of the stain. This took several weeks of this process in order to complete the entire task. Once finished, there was still an issue of the original stain having faded over the years. Ted had to rotate the new stained portion of the bow in and out of the sun to try to get a little aging without he could while fighting off the inclement Pacific Northwest weather. Upon finally receiving the completed reworked bow, I was shocked with what I saw. There was no way this could be the same bow I had originally sent him. The process of having to work the solid stain into a liquid format created these lovely and unique streaks that added so much beauty and character to my bow. Incredible! It was so gorgeous that I was a little hesitant to shoot it. Only a little, though. I went about as fast as I could to the range and fired off just about every arrow I had through this beauty. If you think I was impressed by the looks of her, you should see how astounded I was at the way she shot. Extremely fluid pull, smooth and gentle release, and silent as only a well tuned bow can be. But here is the kicker: Ted refused to charge me for the work. No I know that rewarding customer loyalty is key to any small business owner, and boy have I ever been a loyal customer, but this is above and beyond. There may be better bowyers out there, of which I am highly skeptical, but there isn’t a nicer guy or better person to do business with. For anyone that hasn’t fired a Ted Fry masterpiece, or at least sampled his spectacular arrows, I urge you to give it some thought. I can guarantee you won’t be disappointed.
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Offline TraditionalGuy

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Re: Raptor Archery
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2013, 07:03:00 PM »
Some Pictures of the Vine Maple. They really don't do the bow justice, however:
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Raptor Archery
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2013, 07:32:00 PM »
Yeah Raptor is a great store! My son and I did bow classes there and just generally hung out.   :archer2:

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Re: Raptor Archery
« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2013, 07:55:00 PM »
When I need something I call raptor first.
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Offline WINDTALKER

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Re: Raptor Archery
« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2013, 09:24:00 PM »
Great guy, and a great store. I wish I lived a bit closer. If ever anyone's in the neighborhood make sure you stop and visit you won't regret it.

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Re: Raptor Archery
« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2013, 05:28:00 PM »
Teds a great guy,  he has been involved with traditional archery since most of us were in diapers  (ok, maybe not that long)  and I have found that if it's pertaining to archery and comes out of his mouth you can take it to the bank! He is the most knowledgeable TA man I have ever known.  (errr, TA = trad archery) encase his wife reads this)

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Re: Raptor Archery
« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2013, 09:53:00 PM »
Thanks for the review!  I can't wait to get down there this July for the Rod Jenkins archery lessons.  I have had one conversation with Ted over the phone and came away really impressed with his ability to help someone who is just getting started in TA.
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Re: Raptor Archery
« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2013, 03:47:00 PM »
Wow , thank you for the kind words Guy and all that followed, glad to be here to help! I read the part about TA to Lois , Dennis she thought that was funny.
Guy , glad you liked the finish , it was kind of touch and go there for a bit.

Offline TraditionalGuy

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Re: Raptor Archery
« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2013, 02:47:00 PM »
I promised to ad a few of my favorite bow, especially since I took her out shooting this weekend and had so much fun. At 65 pounds, it can be a bit of a chore, but well worth the effort when you see how fast a straight the arrows fling from her.
 
 
 
 
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Re: Raptor Archery
« Reply #9 on: June 04, 2013, 02:12:00 AM »
Raptor Archery is a great shop.  I go out there pretty often and always leave wondering why there aren't more shops like Ted's.  

I'm not really talking about the fact that it's a true archery shop that doesn't deal in high tech shooting appliances, or that it's a museum, or because Ted builds bows from staves and billets that he harvests and seasons himself.

I'm referring to the way that knowledge is shared openly and willingly, always encouraging and giving advice to others to help them to learn to build their own tackle, helping archers to understand that there are several different paths to the same end result rather than blindly following the "new" hot set up of the month (at least until next months issue comes out with the "newer" hot set up).

I always leave feeling good about my choice to support a small business owner with a passion for his wares, grateful for the things that I learned and the ideas shared.  I for one appreciate the pride that Ted and Lois take in their work and the time they take to truly listen to and assist their customers.

If you have found a shop that is similar then great, if not then give Raptor a call, you'll be glad that you did.


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Btw, I saw your bow at the shop Guy, it's a beauty!

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Re: Raptor Archery
« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2013, 11:13:00 AM »
I have been looking over Teds website and am soon going to build my first selfbow, looks as he has the tools needed as well as some first class staves for sale

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Re: Raptor Archery
« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2013, 11:51:00 AM »
Ted is great.  Good products, service, and free advice.  His shop is really cool too.

Offline TraditionalGuy

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Re: Raptor Archery
« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2013, 03:59:00 PM »
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Originally posted by Hobow:
Raptor Archery is a great shop.  I go out there pretty often and always leave wondering why there aren't more shops like Ted's.  

I'm not really talking about the fact that it's a true archery shop that doesn't deal in high tech shooting appliances, or that it's a museum, or because Ted builds bows from staves and billets that he harvests and seasons himself.

I'm referring to the way that knowledge is shared openly and willingly, always encouraging and giving advice to others to help them to learn to build their own tackle, helping archers to understand that there are several different paths to the same end result rather than blindly following the "new" hot set up of the month (at least until next months issue comes out with the "newer" hot set up).

I always leave feeling good about my choice to support a small business owner with a passion for his wares, grateful for the things that I learned and the ideas shared.  I for one appreciate the pride that Ted and Lois take in their work and the time they take to truly listen to and assist their customers.

If you have found a shop that is similar then great, if not then give Raptor a call, you'll be glad that you did.


Brad

Btw, I saw your bow at the shop Guy, it's a beauty!
Well said. I think I have learned more from my phone conversations with him over the years than I have in all other methods combined. Just the little tricks of the trade he has up his sleeve are priceless treasures. I honestly don't know how he gets anything done if he talks to everyone a fraction of the time he talks with me.

Brad, That's awesome that you saw my bow in his shop. Such a small world. Way cool.
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Re: Raptor Archery
« Reply #13 on: June 04, 2013, 06:39:00 PM »
My wife and I took a little road trip to the Oregon coast over Memorial day, and it just happens we were going right through Hood River on the way home.

   Well, we had to stop in and visit with Ted, what a great guy and an awesome shop! I have had my eye on one of Ted's self bows for some time.

   It just so happened he had just the bow I was looking for, a beautiful 64" Osage 55# @ 27" I am really impressed with the way this bow shoots.
    I'm still working on my arrow selection to get it tuned perfectly.

    If your ever in the Hood River Oregon area make the time to stop in and visit with Ted, you will be glad you did.
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Re: Raptor Archery
« Reply #14 on: June 05, 2013, 11:45:00 AM »
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Originally posted by Tater:
My wife and I took a little road trip to the Oregon coast over Memorial day, and it just happens we were going right through Hood River on the way home.

   Well, we had to stop in and visit with Ted, what a great guy and an awesome shop! I have had my eye on one of Ted's self bows for some time.

   It just so happened he had just the bow I was looking for, a beautiful 64" Osage 55# @ 27" I am really impressed with the way this bow shoots.
    I'm still working on my arrow selection to get it tuned perfectly.

    If your ever in the Hood River Oregon area make the time to stop in and visit with Ted, you will be glad you did.
Feel free to share some pics on here. I love looking at his work. I have one more Ted Fry special that I haven't posted on here, but I will the next time I get it out to shoot. I don't shoot it as often as my other bows because it is only a 45# draw, but it sure is a beauty. I plan to take good care of it so that it will be my son's first deer bow.
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