Hunting with footings

[acollins]

Do you hunt with footings on the front of your arrows or do yo only do that for stumping.    

As far as installing footings. Do they cover the insert and sit flush with the end of the arrow, or just behind the insert?

Thanks

[ChuckC]

You might get a bunch of different answers.  here's mine.  They were originally designed to go behind the insert and strengthen the shaft so impact won't push the insert right on into the shaft.  Some make them longer so that they strengthen the shaft from bending upon impact as well.

In my head,  there is no need to overlap the insert, although I am guessing it doesn't matter if you do.

ChuckC

[Bldtrailer]

What do you think might happen IF you hit     BONE!    
I foot all my carbon arrows,     just incase.

[Bladepeek]

I can certainly see it for stumping. For hunting, I wonder.

Folks want to go to a smaller shaft to reduce friction and increase penetration. I guess maybe the hole hasn't closed up yet from the broadhead and the first inch or so of arrow isn't going to make any difference.  

[JamesKerr]

If it strengthens the shaft then I am all for it. I have never had to foot any kind of carbon shaft besides those that use the HIT insert though for all of my shooting needs. I use brass inserts on all my carbons and that seems to strengthen them a ton and I have never had one fail me shooting game and very few fail stumpshooting. I am going to be using some footed axis shafts this next spring turkey season so I will see how it goes.

[Thumper Dunker]

Most of mine are footed. But mine might be chasing bunnies in rocks and stuff and five minutes later it could be after a coyote. No time to change arrows. All of my ground squirrel arrows are footed and they still get distroyd but not as often .

[yononindo]

Have a look here ...

  http://tradgang.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=113309;p=1

and click the video link.

[SKITCH]

Great stuff Daniel.  Thanks for the video work. Really liked the stumping arrows vid as well!!

[Butch Speer]

I can't think of any good reason to not foot your hunting arrows. Like said above, what happebs if you hit a shoulder? JMO.

[JimB]

I also foot all mine.Most inserts have a lip slightly wider than the shaft so the footing usually butts behind that lip.I use the brass 100 gr inserts.I decided I didn't the way the insert lip was narrower than the outside of the footing and thought the leading edge of the footing might drag on tissue during penetration.

These days I chuck the brass insert in a drill press and turn down that lip to match my shaft diameter and the footing slides over it and so butts right up to the broadhead.The insert loses about 4-5 grs but it does make a nice,smooth transition.

As stated,occasionally heavy bone is hit but also there are misses and pass throughs where rocks etc can be hit.Beyond that,when I tune up a set of arrows,I want them all the same.The footed carbons have been the toughest arrows I've ever used though hickory may be right there with them.
 

[Sharpster]

I always use external footings. Shafts are too expensive to replace when they break no matter what I'm shooting at!

Ron

[LongStick64]

I like em, and don't see a reason not to use them.

[carpin'mark]

That was really interesting, Daniel thanks for taking the time to do that and share it with the rest of us. The thing that really caught my attention was the energy transfer with the footed, the regular arrow really lost momentum as it came apart, the footed pretty much 'rocked that rock'!
I will definitely be making a few of those for stumpin' in the near future.

[acollins]

Guess I know what I will be doing tomorrow.  Thanks for all the info.

[Butchie]

Any effect on spine or need to change broadhead/point weight when adding the approx. 20 grains of footing?  Thanks!

[kevsurf]

I use a natural built in footing so I can use 11/32 head on a 5/16 shaft. (The shaft spines at 70# and is a hardwood).
Kevin

[bucksakemmer]

I foot all of my carbons because I have found that a carbon that has been used without the footing has in most cases been bent, you will see this on a arrow spinner. Put a broad head on a used shaft and you will most likely see some wobble, shafts with footing will not.