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skunkhound
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Tapered Woodies
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August 31, 2013, 12:21:00 PM »
I just switched from carbon to parrallel Douglas Fir. Now that I finally have the right shaft/point weight for my bow, would I mess everything up and have to retune my arrows if I went with tapered shafts, or will the same spine/length/point be ok?
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Orion
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Re: Tapered Woodies
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August 31, 2013, 12:38:00 PM »
You can order your tapered shafts/arrows at the same spine and weight as your parallel arrows. They're tapered first, spine and weight matched second.
If you decide to taper your existing shafts, a 9-10-inch taper will take off 20-30 grains of weight and 1-3# of spine, not enough to worry about.
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skunkhound
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Re: Tapered Woodies
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August 31, 2013, 12:49:00 PM »
The 1-3# of spine doesn't concern as much as the loss of overall weight. I didn't realize you loose that much, 20-30 gr seems like a lot to me, sometimes the difference between quiet, and not so quiet.
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David
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Knawbone
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Re: Tapered Woodies
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August 31, 2013, 01:02:00 PM »
I find no great advantage in tapered shafts over standard shafts. If your firs are shooting good then there you go!
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Orion
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Re: Tapered Woodies
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August 31, 2013, 01:32:00 PM »
There's no loss of weight if you order them already tapered. You simply order the spine and physical weight you want. Order them the same spine and weight as your currrent arrows.
Regardless, I haven't found a 20-30grain weight difference to appreciably change bow/string noise.
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Terry Lightle
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Re: Tapered Woodies
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August 31, 2013, 01:45:00 PM »
It makes them a little more weight forward which is a good thing.Tapered arrows recover from paradox a little quicker.Also gives a little more clearance when it slides over the shelf.
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Re: Tapered Woodies
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August 31, 2013, 01:47:00 PM »
I shoot tapered wood arrows, but I have noticed that they are a little more prone to be bent, or get bent with use, in the tapered section of the shaft. So I always make sure I straighten the tapered section as well as I can before I fletch the shaft, and check it often thereafter.
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skunkhound
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Re: Tapered Woodies
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August 31, 2013, 01:56:00 PM »
All good points to consider. I'm getting such good flight out of my current setup that I probably shouldn't mess with it, but the benefits of more FOC, and quicker paradox recovery are tempting.
Thanks guys. Gonna think about it.
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Frank V
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Re: Tapered Woodies
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August 31, 2013, 04:35:00 PM »
I haven't found much difference between tapered & straight as to arrow flight or noise.
I order custom split hex tapered arrows to hunt with & straight split hex shafts to build my own practice/small game/stump shooting arrows. I order the same spine & length & they both hit the same POI for me.
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arrow flynn
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Re: Tapered Woodies
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September 05, 2013, 08:39:00 PM »
for me they are not worth the expence .because they don't fly any better than parallels.just my experience though .
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gringol
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Re: Tapered Woodies
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September 05, 2013, 08:46:00 PM »
I've only seen a decrease in overall weight of around 10 grains when a shaft is tapered. You can make that back with an extra coat if finish. I haven't seen a big improvement in foc either. Maybe 1 or 2 percent. I like the idea of a tapered shaft, but they don't seem to fly much better than parallels to me.
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Surewood Steve
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Re: Tapered Woodies
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September 06, 2013, 09:30:00 AM »
We taper lots of shafts at Surewood, and yes it's is more money, but we feel that that there is a benefit in the weight forward, quicker recovery and the clearance past the shelf. Plus the aerodynamics through the air, look at the body of an Boeing jet, they don't fly them parallel.
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irishhacker
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Re: Tapered Woodies
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September 06, 2013, 10:00:00 AM »
Tapered shafts sure are a lot nicer when pulling them out of targets!
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DGW
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Re: Tapered Woodies
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September 06, 2013, 05:27:00 PM »
I taper all my hunting shafts and most of my practice shafts. I shoot bows that are not cut past center.
I feel that it is worth the extra time or money and I like the way they fly.
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wooddamon1
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Re: Tapered Woodies
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September 06, 2013, 06:17:00 PM »
I've only noticed a difference with non-centershot bows, the tapered cedars I shot from my longbows flew great.
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joe skipp
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Re: Tapered Woodies
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September 06, 2013, 08:40:00 PM »
I've shot tapered shafts/arrows for years. For me, it's the only way to go.
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Sharpend60
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Re: Tapered Woodies
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September 06, 2013, 09:14:00 PM »
I notice a difference.
Seems less critical of tune.
Plus the change in weight distribution is a huge plus. I get tapered or taper my own shafts when ever possible.
Worth the $10 to me. Or and hour or less to do it myself.
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Sharpend60
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Re: Tapered Woodies
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September 06, 2013, 09:14:00 PM »
I notice a difference.
Seems less critical of tune.
Plus the change in weight distribution is a huge plus. I get tapered or taper my own shafts when ever possible.
Worth the $10 to me. Or and hour or less to do it myself.
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Knawbone
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Re: Tapered Woodies
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September 06, 2013, 09:36:00 PM »
Again, don't expect any significant difference. I shoot only longbows and find that it's much more important to have arrows of the same exact spine and weight than tapered shafts that vary 6 pounds in spine. JM2C Weight forward with 10 to 15 % WITH GOOD FLIGHT is sufficient for most N. American game.
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