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Offline newell38

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Re: fast hunting bows
« Reply #40 on: September 07, 2007, 07:15:00 AM »
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Re: fast hunting bows
« Reply #41 on: September 07, 2007, 07:18:00 AM »
Longbow-ACS CX Adcock.
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Re: fast hunting bows
« Reply #42 on: September 07, 2007, 07:36:00 AM »
Marc a good example for me is the Black Widow bows. Guys rave about them. Pay $800 -$1200 or more for them. I love their ads, love the looks of their bows, but have absolutely hated every one I've ever had in my hands and shot. I don't care if it shot 250 FPS, I wouldn't own a Black Widow.

(Now all you BW owners don't go getting your shorts in a wad, I'm sure they are fine bows I just don't care for them.) I also love the looks of the Pitsley Predators but didn't like them when I tried them.

On the other hand I love the hell out of my Rocky Mt Recurve, to me no finer bow was ever made. Pretty, sleek, smooth, accurate, easy to point but mine only shot around 174 fps, yet I carried it all over the US, Canada and Alaska for eight or nine years. My wife also loves her Rocky Mt and basically won't shoot anything else. If they shot 20 fps faster would that be bad? Heck no, that would be great, but the lack of 20 fps wasn't enough to keep me from hunting with one (quite successfully I might add) for nearly a decade.
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Re: fast hunting bows
« Reply #43 on: September 07, 2007, 07:55:00 AM »
I guess i see things a little different. I think you need to match your bow speed to the type of hunting you do.

I've hunted with the fastest bows on the market. While I agree the numbers tell you they aren't fast enough to beat a deers reaction time I have never had a single deer do it. I've also hunted with a bow that had to be the slowest bow in the world. I lost trac of how many deer watch the arrow creep its way and then simple side step it until I changed the way I hunted with it.

Mid range/speed bows provided some hits that scared the bageebees out of me. You know, the ones were the deer tries to get out of the way and the hit isn't what it would have been had the deer not moved.

I think there is a certian speed bows reach that you have much less to worry about, but those aren't reached with traditional equipment. I also think if your hunting with an all wood bow it darn sure better not make any noise. Shots should only be taken at deer unaware of your intentions.

Some people aren't willing or are unaware of the need to alter how they hunt. Those people need fast bows.

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Re: fast hunting bows
« Reply #44 on: September 07, 2007, 08:05:00 AM »
let me clear up things a bit my reason for posting is that i absolutely love bows and hunting being a x compound shooter I got bored with the sport that i love, hunting with a compound just wasn't doing it for me anymore when i picked up the old bear kodiac in my barn and started shooting it in feb of this year i was reborn so too speak i don't know how many arrows iv'e shot this year it's way up in the thousands.This web site has allowed me and countless others to progress in the sport and gain a wealth of information in months that would take years to gain from trial and error
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experience will i ever be happy with one bow
no, i want to own all of them eventually thanks again Ralph.
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Re: fast hunting bows
« Reply #45 on: September 07, 2007, 08:15:00 AM »
oh yea! the two bows i have set up are Bob Lee 58#@29 shooting 560 gr 2117 with first cut broadhead and Turkey creek longbow with 33-55
gold tips with 235 grs of wt up front total 478grs and magnus 125's opening day in ga tomorrow got a tree picked out now the wait!
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Re: fast hunting bows
« Reply #46 on: September 07, 2007, 08:34:00 AM »
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Originally posted by DarkeGreen:

Some people aren't willing or are unaware of the need to alter how they hunt. Those people need fast bows.
OR... They shoot heavy arrows at big hogs and want to be assured of penetrating the shield.  OR...  They are planning an Alaskan hunt and want to shoot an arrow with high kinetic energy.  OR...  when shooting 3D they want flat arrow flight with a 9 gpp arrow.  Those are my reasons and I'm sure other folks have their own.
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Re: fast hunting bows
« Reply #47 on: September 07, 2007, 08:50:00 AM »
True Woody.Fast, stable and quiet aren't exclusive of each other. Today's bowyers are doing some amazing stuff. With many fellows moving down in weight for various reasons many of them want the most efficient bow they can get at lower weights and speed is one measure of efficiency that can be seen and compared.

It always amuses me how someone can post a simple question and it goes from guys offering up choices to fellows lecturing on why they don't need it or some such. It's his money and his decision. Hunt with what makes you happy and will do the job you want. Be it a selfbow, natural laminate, glass bow or carbon, there's a bow out there for everyone and thank goodness there isn't only one choice.
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Re: fast hunting bows
« Reply #48 on: September 07, 2007, 08:55:00 AM »
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Offline rnharris

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Re: fast hunting bows
« Reply #49 on: September 07, 2007, 09:16:00 AM »
ok the most fastest lack of handshockedness quietest and most deadliest bow made lol
have fun and shoot!!!! Ralph
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Re: fast hunting bows
« Reply #50 on: September 07, 2007, 09:25:00 AM »
Well if your Turkey creek is anything like mine you already have the fastest with least shock.  :)
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Re: fast hunting bows
« Reply #51 on: September 07, 2007, 09:33:00 AM »
James it is amazing a joy to shoot think i'm about ready for a double carbon Ralph
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Re: fast hunting bows
« Reply #52 on: September 07, 2007, 09:44:00 AM »
Mickey,
I hear ya about the BW...but I wanted a "standard" to compare some of my own projects against....and so far I will say that it's a very well crafted piece of work, but has some relatively minor shortcomings.

And let's just say that I picked it up from a very kind gent who had never even removed it from its wrapper, and I didn't pay even the low side of what you posted...I wouldn't have spent $900+ on one...

There is very little difference in 185 to 195fps, but given the choice, I will shoot a bow that has very stable shooting manners in the high 180's to near 200, vs. shooting one that has the same manners anywhere in the 170's.
(This is all based on 9 to 10gpp, by the way...)

**One caveat--this is stumping, yard shooting, and whitetails, etc....if I'm after something large, I'll gladly up arra weight, practice hard, and accept a much lower FPS.

Heck--Bob Morrison posted some results of his non-carbon bamboo Cheyenne, and if memory serves, it was about 6fps faster than some ultra high end ILF limbs on his new ILF riser.  He's gotta be breaking 195+ with 10gpp.

And I had one of his 3-piece Dakotas that was easily 185+, and a 1-piece natural 'boo Cougar that was probably 195.

I probably should have kept the 3-piece, but I traded it off...and the 1-piece, well...it's original owner wanted her back, so home she went...

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Re: fast hunting bows
« Reply #53 on: September 07, 2007, 09:45:00 AM »
Brown Recluse bows really smoke arrows! Built for a brace height well under that of a longbow.
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Re: fast hunting bows
« Reply #54 on: September 07, 2007, 10:09:00 PM »
I've owned many bows but am now down to two.  My main shooter is a Big East by Fedora Jr.  I don't know if it is super fast, but it's faster than anything I've ever owned before.  With the grip style (thumb locator which took some getting used to), and it's smooth draw and quiet shot, I've decided I found the one bow for me; at least for as long as I can easily draw it's 53# draw weight.

I assume the bows made by Fedora Sr. are of equal quality (I don't think they could be better quality, this is one sweet bow).  If I were in the market for a new bow, I would go to either Fedora, or Morrison.  I need to shoot a Morrison more to know for sure which one it would be.

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Re: fast hunting bows
« Reply #55 on: September 07, 2007, 10:35:00 PM »
Mick....You and Di know I'm always available when ya'll get tired of shootin them Rocky Mountain Recurves...

Heck, I might even trade ya one of my 5 Black Widders!!!
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Re: fast hunting bows
« Reply #56 on: September 07, 2007, 10:43:00 PM »
Steve there's a Rocky Mt in the Classifieds.I think Brian Roness has it.
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Re: fast hunting bows
« Reply #57 on: September 07, 2007, 10:49:00 PM »
Yeah, I saw that one.  Though I'm afraid that with a 52 inch bow and my 29"+ draw, it wouldn't be real fun to draw.  I've learned to steer clear of bows less than 60 inches long.
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