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Author Topic: Deer movement times.. Questions for Barry Wensel and those who use cameras all year  (Read 188 times)

Offline RedShaft

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I read in your brothers book about deer movement times, when do you and others seen most deer movements? Time wise? I know you guys say about going in at pink light. Meaning just at day break I'm guessing.
 Is this because you have found deer moving and didn't want to spook them in pre dawn darkness and wait till most return to bed. Then be on stand to Catch them moving around 8-9 am?

What are thee times you typically see the most movement. We know there is nothing written in stone. But your personal findings. Interested in October through November periods. And what you see during the rut midday.  Or any thoughts.

I interested in what some of you have seen. Thanks
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Offline Tony Z

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The biggest eye opener for me were the pics Ive gotten of bucks in my spots that I never saw when on stand. The bulk of the buck pics are between 3 and 5 am for the last four years I've owned the cameras. Although I never lay eyes on big ones it makes a hunt exciting just knowing they are there somewhere. I'm guilty of not staying on stand enough during mid day and have bumped into bucks on their feet between noon and 2 pm more than I care to mention. The best advice in GW's book ( if its the same one you're thinking of) is to spend as much time in the woods as possible. There really is no "best time" especially during the rut. TonyZ.

Offline RedShaft

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Funny you said about the 3 am time we have found similar. Not just bucks but does also.  A hour  or so after dark then around the 3 am time.
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I don't wanna answer for Uncle Gene or Uncle Barry, but my guess is that it's getting close to season and they are not on the computer much!  Uncle Barry did tell us one time that he believes it is best to enter and exit the woods in the dark.  He felt that the deer feel that they are invisible at this time.
    As far as movement goes, I have taken a lot of notes on this over the years, and I have my ideas as to the best times to be out there.  Weather wise, I have always seen more deer on high pressure/sunny days when the wind speed is 10MPH or less.  That doesn't mean to not hunt other times.  I killed my best buck on a day of 25mph winds.
   If it is pouring down rain, I spend my time doing other things than sitting in a tree.  But when the rain stops, I try to get into a tree ASAP.  I have also learned that during October you better be near an area where deer often bed.  100 yards or so.
    Going by both trail camera pictures and experience, there are times to hunt all day long.  This time in my neck of the woods is during the first two weeks of November if the weather is favorable.
   I sit all day a lot in November, but only when conditions are right.  For example, where I live, if it is November 6, and it is calm and clear (high pressure) I'm staying in a tree in a good funnel as long as I can!

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x2 on entering and exiting in the dark. I always try to be in the tree and set up ready to go at thirty minutes prior to dawn and I always stay until after dark. I see most deer between 8-9 am or between 4-5 pm. Also depending on the weather I occasionally hunt during the day too usually form eleven to two and see deer then as well.
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Originally posted by jonsimoneau:
I don't wanna answer for Uncle Gene or Uncle Barry, but my guess is that it's getting close to season and they are not on the computer much!  Uncle Barry did tell us one time that he believes it is best to enter and exit the woods in the dark.  He felt that the deer feel that they are invisible at this time.
    As far as movement goes, I have taken a lot of notes on this over the years, and I have my ideas as to the best times to be out there.  Weather wise, I have always seen more deer on high pressure/sunny days when the wind speed is 10MPH or less.  That doesn't mean to not hunt other times.  I killed my best buck on a day of 25mph winds.
   If it is pouring down rain, I spend my time doing other things than sitting in a tree.  But when the rain stops, I try to get into a tree ASAP.  I have also learned that during October you better be near an area where deer often bed.  100 yards or so.
    Going by both trail camera pictures and experience, there are times to hunt all day long.  This time in my neck of the woods is during the first two weeks of November if the weather is favorable.
   I sit all day a lot in November, but only when conditions are right.  For example, where I live, if it is November 6, and it is calm and clear (high pressure) I'm staying in a tree in a good funnel as long as I can!
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Offline RedShaft

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Great post Jon.
The one reason I ask is. I very rarely see deer righ off bat in the am. It's always 8:30 or so.

I hunt all day during rut for obvious reasons. I wonder how much they move in October too at the odd times. In the evening it's never early right at dark. Hunting public lands I know why this is. Even when hunting right on a bedding area. They don't get up till dusk usually.

Same thing here hunting publi land. You walk into some in dark they blow out in all directions. Even far off you can here em crashing running away. Why I wondered if it be better going in right at daylight trying to be more stealthy. Idk just some thoughts.  

Also wondered about capitalizing on second or mid day movements no one else considers. The rut being the exception.
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I've seen a fair amount of activity in the middle of the day, in the middle of summer, with the temp around 90.  I really just noticed it this year, so I think my sits this season will be much longer than in the past.  I always assumed the heat down here would keep the deer bedded in the middle of the day.  Goes to show what I know...

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I just saw this. First off there are a lot of variables to deal with in giving input. Second, Jon is a lot smarter than he looks. Ha. You guys need to listen to him more often. Frankly I don't use trail cameras hardly at all. Gene is addicted to them and loves them. I can see good and bad points about them. The only thing I basically use them for is to know what's in the neighborhood. I don't depend on the times, or to pattern activities, etc. I think checking them constantly disturbs the area too much. As Jon stated above, I'm of the opinion when it's dark deer think they are invisible. They see much better in the dark than we can obviously. They'll stand off to the side in a field and watch you walk right by, whereas they would clear the field in the same scenario if was daylight. Therefore I like to enter the stand/area before first light. I normally like to be in position a half hour before pink light. That gives the critters you've disturbed on entering a little time to settle down to regain their normal activities. I'm not at all afraid of using a flashlight on entering. I mean I don't purposely shine it all around but I'll not hesitate pointing it at the ground on entering. They'll stand off to the side and let you pass (remember they think they're invisible) whereas they'll panic if they just hear footsteps in the dark. When entering I'll also do it as quickly as possible. A lot will depend on the wind velocity. If it's windy they'll not likely hear you entering anyway because of the background noise. If it's dead quiet they can hear you from a long ways off even if you're trying to sneak in, although I'll often rake bare spots for foot placements the last 50 yds. or so in/out. But you might just as well get into the stand quickly but quietly and hope the deer you are intending to shoot is still a long ways off and out of ear range. Regarding times of activities, I really have never paid much attention to it other than to inform myself what time it was when I shot, or what time it was when I saw activity, etc. I usually look at my watch after I see game to see what time it was. But I don't pattern my hunt schedules on that timing. In otherwords, if I enter the stand at 6AM but don't ever see deer until 8:30 in that area, I don't think "heck I'll just get here at 8AM". No.. no. That's laziness. You never know when it might happen. As I said, there are a pile of variations and there's not time (no pun intended)to get into moon phases, barometric pressures, cloud covers/lighting, winds, moisture, time of the year, leaf cover/foliage, etc. Let me just say this, hunting longer hours when conditions are perfect will give you the benefit of being there when the right time comes; will disturb the area less on entrance/exit, on top of the fact it's more fun, you'll learn more and see more. bw

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If i'm not in the stand while its still dark i think i wasted my morning hunt. When i've overslept a couple of times i've always busted deer either going into my stand or climbing up the tree. That ruins my day so i make sure i don't get in late anymore.
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