Guys I need help

[Down under hunter]

Hey guys
I have been shooting a 50@28 border black douglas i draw about 26 and my arrows have been all over the shop i cant seem to hit anything, i shoot fmj dangerous game 500's cut to 27.5 inches with a 125 tip would any body be able to possibly able to explain why.
thanks

[Bud B.]

My first guess would be you're too stiff. Try a 175gr point if you have some or maybe even a 200gr point. You may need to go even higher.

Make sure your form and release are the best you can produce.


Sprinkle some talcum powder onto your fletching. Shoot that arrow and see if your fletching is hitting the shelf anywhere. Do this after you try the point increase if more weight up front doesn't seem to work.

[RedShaft]

Target panic? If you was shooting good previously.
Are you hitting a solid anchor point on each shot?

[Bud B.]

The more I think about it the more I'd go with 200 or 225.

With your 125 up front you're gonna be in the area of 80lb dynamic spine.

[Down under hunter]

thanks for the reply I think i just realised that there is a difference between the fmj dangerous games and fmjs of shoot fmjs

[Fleatrap1]

As a newby myself I can only tell you what has worked to me.  I finally broke down and built a frame to hold pieces of freezer paper and shot through the paper to paper tune my arrows. I shoot carbon 500 goldtips out of a Bear Super Grizzly 45# @ 28 and I draw just short of 27" I use 125 tips and have 5gpi weight tubes inside the shafts.  The arrows are 30" long.

With that set-up I shoot bullet holes through the paper from about any distance (out 15 yard is about are far as I get right now)  if I change anything, arrow length or tip weight I start to see tears to the side as the arrow wobbles. I will be shooting 135gr zwicky's for broadheads this season.

I tried a weight kit and put some real heavy stuff up front and it just killed the paper testing.  I starting working (still am) very hard on my form.  This has made a dramatic improvement my release was sloppy and I was not "locking on" target with my eyes, it really does make a different.  Started shooting a little orange earplug I stuck to may target to give me something to pick out and stare at.  At 10 yds I can now group within an inch of the earplug pretty consistently. Still working in the 12-15 yd range.

Good luck man.  Don't give up it seems like at some point the body just "gets it" and you start improving fast!

[Down under hunter]

thanks man I was serioulsy thinking about paper tuning which I might do this weekend.Should I have shot my arrows bare shaft before I flecthed them.
thanks

[Killdeer]

Yes.
I bare shaft at close range (about 8-10 yards) with my selected point, adding weight or trimming until the paper shows as small a hole as I can get.

Once fletched they fly well at longer ranges.
Killdeer

[reddogge]

If you don't want to go that heavy up front buy some longer shafts and start tuning from full length. Sounds like you are way too stiff to me.