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Author Topic: riser crack, should I be worried?  (Read 689 times)

Offline BigJim

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Re: riser crack, should I be worried?
« Reply #20 on: October 04, 2013, 09:27:00 PM »
That is ziricote and that is not a sap line. Unfortunately a common place to have a crack. You can try to wick some thin supper glue in there, but it is helpful if it were sanded above and below so the air can escape and to facilitate the sipping action. Unfortunately it is messy. Not likely it will kill the riser (unless it is of a heavier draw weight), but very likely you may loose a chunk off of the shelf. If you can get a good thin cyano glue penetration and then seal the outside (even with the glue itself) It may never give you another problem.

To quote a famous bowyers words "without superglue and touch up, I would quit building bows" or something like that.

If it was exposed to some severe climate changes during shipping, it could be the culprit. Cracks that exist during the spraying process are obvious and Identify ably so.

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Re: riser crack, should I be worried?
« Reply #21 on: October 04, 2013, 11:53:00 PM »
Thanks for the advice everyone, I guess I'll have to see how we go. It's fairly light at 44 pounds so it might be able to be salvaged. I would have just sent it back and had another made but the bowyer has apparently sold all his gear so I'm at a bit of a loss as to what to do.

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Re: riser crack, should I be worried?
« Reply #22 on: October 05, 2013, 08:33:00 AM »
I hope it is nice enough looking to be a mantle-piece because that's what I'd be doing with it.

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Re: riser crack, should I be worried?
« Reply #23 on: October 05, 2013, 08:52:00 AM »
For you bowyers is Zircote as a wood more prone to this situation?...

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Re: riser crack, should I be worried?
« Reply #24 on: October 05, 2013, 09:09:00 AM »
I can tell by the photo who built that bow, im sure he will make it right one way or the other.

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Re: riser crack, should I be worried?
« Reply #25 on: October 05, 2013, 09:23:00 AM »
as far as repair, if it comes to that, here is what I would do.

Take a q tip with denatured alchohol (would not use acetone, mek or anything that harsh on finish).  Dip the q tip in the d.a.,  then just "touch" the crack in a few spots.  This will let the alchohol wick or "pull" down into the crack.  

Allow a few minutes for the d.a. to dry thoroughly.  

Get some of the "water" thin super glue from your local hobby store, if there isn't one you can order it or maybe find it at a hardware store etc.  I would say its worth the extra effort to get the really thin stuff, as it will wick down into the crack way better then the standard viscous superglue.

With a TINY hole in the tip add only a few drops at a time into the crack.  DONT overdue it and get superglue all over your bow.  Be sure and just use tiny drops with a very very small hole in the tip (small as you can get it).  Keep a lint free cloth handy to quickly wipe off any excess etc.  

You can lightly sand with 400 grit then steel wool when you have the crack glued up.

Just use common sense, go slow, be patient.

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Re: riser crack, should I be worried?
« Reply #26 on: October 05, 2013, 06:02:00 PM »
I would most likely send it back to the bowyer to have it repaired as I would hate to try something myself and mess it up further. Add on top of that that it was built to shoot with the wrong hand. It would definitely be going back.
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Re: riser crack, should I be worried?
« Reply #27 on: October 07, 2013, 07:33:00 AM »
Gator1, zircote is no more prone than a lot of other commonly used bow woods. The key is to have good dry wood to start with and to keep it in a low humidity area until properly sealed (nothing is ever completely sealed).


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Re: riser crack, should I be worried?
« Reply #28 on: October 07, 2013, 10:11:00 PM »
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Re: riser crack, should I be worried?
« Reply #29 on: October 08, 2013, 12:48:00 AM »
Well said BigJim, the woods need to be properly dried and acclimated to the area of bowyers area to properly build a great bow.  Hopefully he can fill with the loctite 420 glue and all will be good.

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Re: riser crack, should I be worried?
« Reply #30 on: October 08, 2013, 12:59:00 AM »
I had a very heavy bow made from actionwood with a similar crack

i fixed mine with 24 hour . i prefer this glue for the long dry time which allows it to really seep in and it also fills the crack. just hea tthe glue to around 50 degrees and it flows well.

i dont think this will be the end of the bow, especially at only 44#

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Re: riser crack, should I be worried?
« Reply #31 on: October 08, 2013, 01:01:00 AM »
also, i think there are some bowyers in australia who might fix it.

Nick Lintern - norseman bows
Mark Kimber - huntsman bows
Ausbow industies - Goolwa SA

are possible ones to try. which state you in?

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Re: riser crack, should I be worried?
« Reply #32 on: October 08, 2013, 10:16:00 PM »
I'd just like to say a sincere thank you to all the bowyers and people who have weighed in on this. I'm feeling good about the prospects!

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Re: riser crack, should I be worried?
« Reply #33 on: October 08, 2013, 11:31:00 PM »
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Originally posted by VictoryHunter:
Built for the wrong hand and shipped cracked?! You definitely need to get a refund and I were you, I would take my business elsewhere.
THIS!!!
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Re: riser crack, should I be worried?
« Reply #34 on: October 09, 2013, 11:28:00 AM »
I do not think the crack should be there and I am sure the bowyer would like to replace it.

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