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Offline longbow fanatic 1

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Bow quiver causes left arrows
« on: October 10, 2013, 12:25:00 PM »
I discovered today that my bow mounted quiver causes me to have left arrows. As most of us do, I shot all summer long. I haven't had any problems with left or right arrows during my shooting sessions. So, I put my quiver on my bow recently and began noticing left arrows. Today, while shooting my 60" bow, which has no mounted quiver, I noticed my left/right arrows were perfect out to 20 yards. Yet when I shot my 66" bow, which has a mounted quiver, from 10 yards out to 20 yards, I had significantly left arrows. So, I took my quiver off and guess what? Left arrows disappeared. It seems that the rubberized material, which encircles the bow limbs at the fade-outs, cause harmonic changes in the limb vibrations, resulting in left arrows.

Has anyone else experienced this? I often wondered if my quiver could cause this to occur and I now know it can.

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Re: Bow quiver causes left arrows
« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2013, 12:35:00 PM »
Actually it's the weight on the other side of the bow that causes it.  That's why I use a side quiver.  My practice and hunting systems are the same.

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Re: Bow quiver causes left arrows
« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2013, 12:37:00 PM »
I always practice with the exact setup as I hunt with
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Re: Bow quiver causes left arrows
« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2013, 12:38:00 PM »
I don't think it has anything to do with 'limb harmonics'.  All bow mounted quivers I know of stick out on one side of the bow or the other depending on a right or left handed shooter.

I'm guessing you shoot right handed.  Meaning your quiver likely sticks out on the right hand side of the bow as you face your target.  As a right handed shooter you naturally torque the bow with your release in a direction that pushes the string away from your face.  Pretend you are looking down from above at you shooting the bow.  When you release, the string will naturally want to move the bow counter clockwise as it moves away from your face.  The additional weight of a bow quiver simply amplifies this natural torque.  This added torque is what I think is sending your arrows a bit left.

Some folks take a slightly more firm grip to reduce the torque.  Some, through practice and using their back muscles develop a torque free release.

Don't give up.  The extra weight of the quiver can give a more solid feel, produce less noise, help you keep on target, etc.  But the bow will handle differently until you get used to it.

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Re: Bow quiver causes left arrows
« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2013, 12:54:00 PM »
I have always shot left with a quiver on my bow as well. I always hang my quiver when posted but when walking or still hunting I know I will shoot left.

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Re: Bow quiver causes left arrows
« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2013, 01:03:00 PM »
Thanks for the tips and advice!

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Re: Bow quiver causes left arrows
« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2013, 01:34:00 PM »
Yeah, typically left arrows are a result of a problem with the bow arm, I'd say not being used to the extra weight on the right side causes you to compensate and torque too much to the left  :)

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Re: Bow quiver causes left arrows
« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2013, 01:44:00 PM »
All you need to do is shoot for a few days   You will dial in.  After several years of using one  I can take mine off and on and not have to adjust
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Re: Bow quiver causes left arrows
« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2013, 01:51:00 PM »
There are really only two solutions to your issue. Practice with the bow quiver on. I found that over time you will adjust your sight picture...at least that worked for me. The other solution is to  use some other kind of quiver. I no longer use a bow quiver but have my own homemade version of the GFA quiver. Ah....you could also get a bow quiver that is removable and once you get to your stand/blind remove it. Just pray that that big buck doesn't walk out in front of you on your way to or from your hunting area.
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Re: Bow quiver causes left arrows
« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2013, 02:59:00 PM »
shoot a couple days with quiver on bow, full of arrows and issue will go away....I now shoot all year long with my quiver on as I had same issue several years back....
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Re: Bow quiver causes left arrows
« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2013, 08:51:00 PM »
If your arrows are flying good/straight raise your brace hight until you arrows come back to center.

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Re: Bow quiver causes left arrows
« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2013, 09:08:00 PM »
I found when I shot my Das without quiver I could use 400 spine Axis with 175 point weight..shoot perfct fletched and bare but when I put on my modified Kanati quiver I would lose a whole spine bracket..I had to go and shoot 500 spine Axis with 175heads bare and fletched and only they would fly correctly..I found that I do not like bow quivers at all anymore because what I shoot all year should stay the same when I hunt but then again Im like most people that put a quiver on right before hunting season so if your gonna use a quiver, use it all the time so when you find the ARROW it will stay the same and I also found that a lighter quiver makes me only change point weight
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Re: Bow quiver causes left arrows
« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2013, 09:14:00 PM »
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Originally posted by T Lail:
shoot a couple days with quiver on bow, full of arrows and issue will go away....I now shoot all year long with my quiver on as I had same issue several years back....
I do the same thing.

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Re: Bow quiver causes left arrows
« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2013, 09:43:00 PM »
For me it's a torque thing. I grip a bit differently to compensate for the added weight on the right side of the bow.

I put my quiver on my bow a few weeks before the season and let it on. Within a couple days I'm used to it and don't have anymore left/right issues.
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Re: Bow quiver causes left arrows
« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2013, 09:48:00 PM »
I have had the same thing had from using a quiver. It's no big deal if you are going to shoot with a quiver on the all of the time.

Personally I started using a back quiver for hunting and target shooting this year. I once used the bow mounted quiver 100% of the time with no ill effects.

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Re: Bow quiver causes left arrows
« Reply #15 on: October 10, 2013, 10:21:00 PM »
You should always tune and practice with what you are going to hunt with.
When you added the quiver you added weight to your bow . The weight of the quiver is actually absorbing your bows energy. Thus putting less energy into your arrow giving you a stiff arrow  reaction.
I experiment a lot with paper tuning with quiver without quiver tip weight s and brace height.
What  you could  try with you quiver on twist your string  increasing your brace height try 1/8  at a time.
With my set up 1/8 more brace height increase   usually brings my arrows back shooting straight and getting bullet holes again.
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Re: Bow quiver causes left arrows
« Reply #16 on: October 11, 2013, 11:05:00 AM »
Bow quivers will vary considerably in how much they affect the way a bow shoots. Know your quiver and whether it affects the bow. I have seen some quivers that will cause an average bow to shoot 4-5" left at 20 yards. There are a number of variables that come into play including weight of the quiver in ratio to the bow weight, distance away from the axis of the bow, shooting form, etc.

Some quivers have minimal negative effect on how a bow shoots and some have a positive effect. We have been told many times by our customers how our quiver made their bow shoot quieter, and sometimes more accurately. As I said before,know your quiver.

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