zwickey delta sharpening help

[buckeyebowhunter]

I just bought some 2 blade deltas, been sharpening them on my tru angle then hitting them with a stone. The back end gets hair shaving sharp but the front 1/2 inch or so is dull as can be. Not sure what to do?

[karrow]

the front half inch where the metal is doubled up on all zwickeys need ALOT of work. they do take time

[buckeyebowhunter]

Its getting irritating lol Should I just pound the hell out of the doubled front with a normal file?

[WESTBROOK]

Yup, that's the first thing I do with them. They get pretty sharp with a file, then just a little on a stone.

[buckeyebowhunter]

I have some bear razorheads that I have sharpened the same way as I'm doing with the deltas and I cant get them nearly as sharp as the razorheads do.. Gonna keep trying, I didnt think they would be this tough.    :confused:

[-snypershot317-]

thats what me and bro in law did with ours...reshape the blade angle and point angle with a file the run it through a quality drage through to re-establish an edge and the hone on the stone...takes a few minutes per head but are now hair popping sharp...good luck they are good heads just need to be worked a little but hey for the price cant really beat it    

[Sharpster]

Originally posted by buckeyebowhunter:
Its getting irritating lol Should I just pound the hell out of the doubled front with a normal file?

Yes, exactly. Make the bevel wider (lower) too. Not really sharpening at this point, just hoggin' off steel to re-profile the front end till it lines up flush with the main blade bevel.

You'll probably need to take a bit off the back end too in order to make the cutting edge straight and not concave like a Simmons.

Ron

[buckeyebowhunter]

Does anyone have a picture of what it should look like after re-shaping the front? Mine ended up like sharpster said with a concave like a simmons and still pretty dull in the front.

[Bobby Urban]

agreed with what has been said - the front is tpl thick and need a little work out of the box before honing.  An Accu sharp does a great job on two blade heads after that - I can get them nasty sharp.  

For the record it is the trailing edge that does most of the damage so as long as the point is sharp so it will punch through the back half of the head will be doing the job.  Not to say you want the front part dull but it is doing very little as compared to the widest part of the broad head as it plows through.  Think strength up front and a razor in the back.

[Sticks2117]

I say get a KME its the bomb

[WESTBROOK]

Buckeye, I lay the file on the rear of the cutting edge so it touches the ferrul and work that bevel all the way to the point. Both sides of both edges. Then use a stone at a little less of an angle so you are just working the very edge of the blade.

Eric

[Sharpster]

Robert,

They come out of the pack with the concave grind. After they're filed and sharpened the cutting edge really should be one continuous straight edge. Most of the "work" is done to the front end but some has to come off the back too.

Do you have the Tru-Angle with files or stones??? The one with the files will straighten the edges pretty quickly but the one with stones will take a long time because that's a hone intended primarily to polish and refine after the head is shaped on something much coarser and aggressive. Sending you a PM,

Ron

[monkeyball]

Get a Lil Shaver and they will be picking hair in no time.

                  Good Hunting,
                            Craig

[Butch Speer]

Listen to Sharpster. He is absolutely correct. He has based his company on sharpening.

[just_a_hunter]

Sharpster is of course on the money.

Just so you have a visual this is a sharpened with a file then honed with a diamond stone Delta with an unsharpened factory edge.

It's not necassary but I take the tip down a bit on mine.

 

Hopefully this helps.

Todd

[30coupe]

I just use a 6" mill bastard file and get them to pop hair easily. I do pretty much what Westbrook says but don't use the stone. I just lighten up the strokes so the last few are just the weight of the file. They will be scary sharp.

[Rob W.]

Chainsaw file and a wheelie for me.

I like to shoot in the general direction of squirrels so easy field sharpening is nice.    :D

[buckeyebowhunter]

Thanks for the help guys!