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Offline ThePushArchery

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Re: pack in type seat
« Reply #20 on: December 31, 2013, 10:10:00 AM »
I went through a phase where I was 100% dedicated to ground hunting. (until I got a Lone Wolf Climber, now I'm 50/50 ground versus up a tree. But thats another subject all together)

I've tried the three-legged tripods, all types that you hang off the side of the tree, Waldrop Pac Seat, etc, etc, etc.

The search for the perfect seat seemed like it was going on forever. Until I came to the realization, that every situation can not be covered by a single seat.

After coming to that realization, my seats have been narrowed down to two. The rest, thrown in the trash or given away... The Waldrop PacSeat and the Nif-T-Seat.

Waldrop PacSeat:
Pros:
Super Comfortable. Can sit all day for 8 hours if needed. Be careful, you may be woken from your accidental slumber by a deer in your wheel-house!
Relatively Light.
Quiet for the first couple years.
Lean against a tree or Stand Alone.
Low Profile.
No set up time. Drop it off your back and you're hunting.

Cons:
Got a little squeeky after the first couple seasons. I have to lube it up before each season.
I have found set ups where this seat didn't work out. On extreme inclined hills, sometimes this seat just can't sit true, or if you get into a bulbus root system, the support bar between the front two legs teaters on the root system. Rarely, but it does happen, sometime the terrain forces you to compromise the "perfect" set up for a more Waldrop appropriate setup.
Can't rotate into a shot if needed without sliding your butt on the seat surface.
Nylon seat webbing is sometime really slick if I'm wearing clothes that don't grab well. (slide/creep down and have to push yourself back up the seat)

Nif-T-Seat:
Pros:
Super Rugged Construction. My grandkids will be using this seat decades from now.
Extremely adjustable.
Super Light.
No situation or terrain that this seat can not work in.
Packable, extremely minimalist concept.
Cool belt loop hook carry system.
Rotates naturally with it's design, but no moving parts to get squeeky in a hokey "swivel system". Great at the moment of truth when you need that extra 5º of angle to rotate into the shot.

Cons:
Not for extended sits over 3 to 4 hours.
Minimal set up time. You do have a little assembly required, but not much.


These two seat cover every scenario I have when I'm hunting.

If I am hunting terrible terrain, not sitting over 4 hours, heavy slopes, and not 100% sure of where that "perfect" set up is, or simply spot and stalk hunting, the Nif-T-Seat will be with me on my journey.

If I know where I am setting up, the terrain isn't extreme, and i'm sitting for more than 4 hours, the Waldrop is on my back.

There are blended scenarios that make me sit at the back of my car before I walk in, staring at my two seats, each of which is screaming "pick me! pick me!"... Either way though, both are the most high quality, highly versitile seat on the market in my opinion. Very little restriction on usage, and perfect for years and years of abuse in the woods.

At the end of the day, if someone made me pick just one seat to hunt from for the rest of my days, I'd probably pick the Nif-T-Seat. At my young age, versitility to be able to see that perfect set up and get set up without any compromises out weighs comfort at the moment, and I love knowing I can head in the woods with my minimalist seat strapped to my belt, and get into any ambush that jumps out at me.

In 20 years, when my back can't take 4 hours on the Nif-T-Seat, the Waldrop will probably move to #1.

Hypothetically though, out of 10 hunts on the ground, I probably use the Nif-T-Seat 6 or 7 out of 10 times. So they both get to see a lot of action and rotation in my line-up.

Hope that helped a little.

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Re: pack in type seat
« Reply #21 on: December 31, 2013, 10:47:00 AM »
Who makes the "hammock seat" that everyone enjoys so much?

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Re: pack in type seat
« Reply #22 on: December 31, 2013, 10:59:00 AM »
Simply Traditional sells the Hammock seat.

 http://www.simplytraditional.net/products-page/blinds-chairs/

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Re: pack in type seat
« Reply #23 on: December 31, 2013, 11:14:00 AM »
I actually took my hammock seat and had a custom seat made from sports netting made for it.  It now has absolutely no noise and is still very light weight and compacts into a small bundle that easily fits INSIDE my pack.  Unless you hunt where there are no trees I can't imagine a situation where this seat will not work well???
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Offline gokartjon

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Re: pack in type seat
« Reply #24 on: December 31, 2013, 11:17:00 AM »
Dead Ringer is the manufacturer, or at least the importer. Simply Traditional sells the seat, but I am pretty sure it will say dead ringer right on the packaging. Just beware of possibly quality issues and rectifying these issues per my post above...

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Re: pack in type seat
« Reply #25 on: December 31, 2013, 11:20:00 AM »
I use a Torges seat built for me by my hunting buddy Bamboo. Photos are before I camoed it. Folds up, attaches to the Catquiver with those tie downs and also straps on to my large fanny pack.

When your a ground hunter, you need a lightweight comfortable seat that you can transport and setup up anywhere in seconds. Pics below....

 


 

 
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Re: pack in type seat
« Reply #26 on: December 31, 2013, 11:24:00 AM »
Check out the Hunter's Smart Seat. It is great. I packed it into Colorado. I have the backrest and seat. It is too comfortable. It also acts as a game drag too. It is light and folds down to a small package in your pack.

I bought mine used here on Tradgang.

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Offline DaveT1963

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Re: pack in type seat
« Reply #27 on: December 31, 2013, 11:25:00 AM »
Here's a pic of modified seat..... only one I have on phone
   
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Re: pack in type seat
« Reply #28 on: December 31, 2013, 11:26:00 AM »
I actually took my hammock seat and had a custom seat made from sports netting made for it.  It now has absolutely no noise and is still very light weight and compacts into a small bundle that easily fits INSIDE my pack.  Unless you hunt where there are no trees I can't imagine a situation where this seat will not work well???
Everything has a price - the more we accept, the more the cost

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Offline KSdan

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Re: pack in type seat
« Reply #29 on: December 31, 2013, 01:45:00 PM »
I like the simple triangle three legged folding stool with small backrest.  I can carry it in my turkey vest- (I use a vest for all my whitetail hunting- even with a tree stand on my back- with key items accessible in known pockets. Better than a pack to me.)  Any type of back quiver can be carried on the vest as well.    

One of the BIG reasons I like the stool is I can sit with one buttock on seat and a knee on the ground (can even bury the legs to get closer to the ground). This is a very comfortable position- and my go-to position when I see a deer approach.  I can hunker right down on my knee which gives me the pivot as needed.
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Re: pack in type seat
« Reply #30 on: December 31, 2013, 01:50:00 PM »
I addition to the Waldrop, I also use the Smartseat and a Torges seat like Joe Skipp's. With those 3 you will have all the bases covered.
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Re: pack in type seat
« Reply #31 on: December 31, 2013, 04:12:00 PM »
The important thing about all seats,can you take the shot you need to pull off. I used my own version of the Torges, one that bit into the tree easier, but that just right tree was never where I wanted it. I mostly used an assemble nifty seat this year, I put a cheap stretchy belt around the shaft and over the seat to keep it out of the way when walking. I prefer something that gives me quick and slent position changing options. Our Iowa deer have a nasty habit of not walking on the trails and coming in on the wrong side.

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Re: pack in type seat
« Reply #32 on: December 31, 2013, 04:29:00 PM »
I've switched to the 360 seat.
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Re: pack in type seat
« Reply #33 on: December 31, 2013, 04:38:00 PM »
One of the nice things about a Waldrop......you can use a tree......but don't need a tree as it will free stand like a lawn chair.
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Re: pack in type seat
« Reply #34 on: December 31, 2013, 05:14:00 PM »
nif-t- seat here. one thing left out of above report is, once the nif-t-seat is set up, it is easily transported if you decide to change locations.
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Re: pack in type seat
« Reply #35 on: December 31, 2013, 09:30:00 PM »
Tippit x2, Spot 360!
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Re: pack in type seat
« Reply #36 on: December 31, 2013, 09:58:00 PM »
I just ordered a Spot 360 chair from The Hunting Spot, a sponser on here.
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Re: pack in type seat
« Reply #37 on: December 31, 2013, 09:59:00 PM »
Black Widow PSAX RH 58" 47#@28
Samick Sage 62" 40#@28"
PSA Kingfisher RH 45#@28
Treadway longbow RH 60" 46#at 28"
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Re: pack in type seat
« Reply #38 on: December 31, 2013, 10:16:00 PM »
Original Walkstool for me. But no backrest, so I always set up on a tree. 28 oz and rated to hold 495 lbs.

I use it with the legs not extended, which alloys you to slowly pivot while seated.

It's a simple lightweight piece of gear that I expect to provide years of service.

The most comfortable stool I have used (mesh seat). Choosing the correct size however; is key.

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