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Offline xtrema312

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Re: AD shafts…not overly impressed!
« Reply #20 on: January 01, 2014, 06:37:00 PM »
I have hmixed results so far. I shoot bows about 50-55@29 mostly D&R long bows and hybrid type bows. I have not shot AD's in a cut well past center bow for quite a while, and that was a light draw weight bow for me.  I know I got it to shoot the AD's okay, but don't recall what I had for point weight.  I hope to find my next recurve soon and try them to see how that works out.

I have not found them to be the magic arrow shaft that will shoot ideally in everything i have tried, but I have found some of them to shoot very well if not better than anything else in more than a few bows.   At times they may not be as good as other options in some bows when finely tuned, but they do shoot reasonable well in a range of bows for me when I am just playing with different bows.  I have gone to shoots and the expo and shot one set of arrows in everything and saw no issues with flight over short range.  I can't say that for any other arrow I have ever tried that with.

I am curious as to how everyone has determined they will not tune or shoot well for them.  Paper tuning, visual flight, bare shafting, broad heads? I have been able to bare shaft them reasonable well sometimes, but find paper tuning to be the best way to go.  I see good flight in arrows that don't bare shaft or paper tune the best, but they look good going down range.  

AD trad lite wood grain shoot great for me in my cut to center or just a little out bows.  They shoot bullet holes in paper from about 8' on out and show very little tear increase with a step up or down in point weights.  This will allow me to reasonably shoot three point weights most of the  time.  I shoot them with 100 gr. inserts and 125-200 points dependent on the bow. I don't do any cutting to tune.  I just play with the point weight.  This is a great shaft for me in my bow weight range if the bow is at about center or just a hair out. I get better constancy, accuracy and groups than any other shaft, and I have CE150's,CE250's, GT trad 5575, GT trad 3555, and Beaman hunters in multiple spines on hand for comparison.  

I got some AD hammer head lites and couldn't shoot them in my LB's.  They were too stiff unless I got something like 300-350 gr. up front and that was a real heavy arrow with the added weight of the hammer head shaft.  I think when you go to hammer heads you get a lot closer to the AD trad vs the trad lite in the way it acts for stiffness, but that is just a guess based on my experience for a short time. I just don't need that heavy of an arrow so passed then on.  

I got some black AD trad lites and they  shoot weaker than my wood trad  lites. These work great in the lighter bows I have tried them in.  I recently had a heavier MOAB cut out a little farther from center and a little heavier draw weight than my old trusty MOAB.  The wood grain trad light was too stiff unless I really loaded up the front, but the bow loved the black shafts with about 275 up front.  I don't know why they are different when both are trad lites. The black is less weight than the  wood grain. That weight has to be someplace in the shaft so looks like the spine is not the same for me.  

It kind of appears to me so far that one shaft will like a certain center cut and when it does, It will shot well out of quite a range in draw weights with just point weight changes, and it will shot a range of point weights also.  Only time will tell as I try them in a few more bows.
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Re: AD shafts…not overly impressed!
« Reply #21 on: January 01, 2014, 06:49:00 PM »
Just went out for a few shots. That black AD actually is magic. I have 2 dozen ordered from the mfg that are 1/2" longer than normal.

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Re: AD shafts…not overly impressed!
« Reply #22 on: January 01, 2014, 08:41:00 PM »
The comments regarding leaving them full length may be some of my issues as mine are shortened.

But that may be a reason that I will give up on them.  If I had a 31 1/2" draw like some of the folks that have responded, no problems.  But I have a 28" draw on a good day and don't like to have 4" of extra arrow sticking out front.  

Probably will stay with woodies and for times I need something else, aluminum.

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Re: AD shafts…not overly impressed!
« Reply #23 on: January 01, 2014, 09:36:00 PM »
I have also found they work best on bows not cut past center, once I built out the strike plate on my Sasquatch and turned in the plunger on my Morrison ILF broadheads fly really good with several point weights.
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Re: AD shafts…not overly impressed!
« Reply #24 on: January 01, 2014, 10:19:00 PM »
I tried, tried & tried again to get good flight with AD's it ended up a no go for me as well. My favorite shaft has ended up being Gold Tip black XT hunters, front loaded.

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Re: AD shafts…not overly impressed!
« Reply #25 on: January 02, 2014, 10:19:00 AM »
My experience with the Arrow Dynamics is limited, yet my impression was quite positive.

Easily bare shaft tuned the Trad-Lites to three different bows. One bow’s shelf was 1/8” past center, one was 3/16” past center and one had an adjustable side plate. BH flight is my main objective and all set-ups were golden to 25 yards as I tested no furthere. May have a different outcome today, since currently I tune BH’s out to 40 yards.

These shafts proved to be quite durable. Did notice ~15 gn difference in a dozen shafts, however experienced no impact with regard to arrow flight or mark.

Mine were sold to a Trad Gang member of whom I had had set-up. My reason for moving them was that I tinker often with heavy front load and a stiff light shaft is much more conducive for my own personal preference.

Note: My positive experience is but one data point within a vast number of customers. One data point is far from accurate in attempting to assess the satisfaction level of the true population. Due hope that Arrow Dynamics views and thoroughly evaluates the concerns mentioned. Customer feedback and perception may likely be their most reliable asset or of ignored, their most grievous liability.
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Re: AD shafts…not overly impressed!
« Reply #26 on: January 02, 2014, 11:02:00 AM »
All my bows are cuts past center. Thanks for the info Ryan. I've always wanted to try them but will stick to my Carbon Express'.
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Re: AD shafts…not overly impressed!
« Reply #27 on: January 02, 2014, 12:05:00 PM »
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Originally posted by Broofinez:
I was very dissapointed in the weight difference in 1/2 dozen,  30 grains between the lightest and heaviest. Dont know if thats normal or not.
that along with +/- difference in spine is normal with AD's
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