Bear Tamerlane HC 30 bow

[ed cowden]

Does any one know if any of our custom bowyers has tried to copy this target recurve or any of the old target recurves.

[Sixby]

I've thought about it but not an exact copy. What has kept me from it is that most target shooters insist that the new ilf bows are better. I disagree but I'm not buying target bows. Is that new bow not doing the trick? If she isn't accurate enough I could build you a super long , heavy riserd short limb facisimile of the Bear. Say a 68 in with a 24 in riser. Grin. 22 in limbs. I have been thinking on it. LOL.

God bless, Steve

[Jack Shanks]

Just my thoughts. It seems like there are enough of the vintage target bows around at reasonable prices that there wouldn't be much of a market for a reproduction.

[rlc1959]

I have one if anyone is interested. Listed in the classified adds. Vintage section. PM me .

[reddogge]

Since there is so much available in ILF for the target crowd I see no market for new old style target bows besides the actual old ones.

[ed cowden]

Sixby;  The new bow is phenomenal. I shoot it everyday and have to aim at different spots because I am afraid of busting knocks. Will have to buy new targets soon.
    The owner of a bow shop here was asking about the Bear HC30 because he said he had won many trophies with it until it blew up. Went to Hoyt after that and said he could not find another Bear.

[Sixby]

Ed I owned an HC30 for many years. Those short limbs were kinda prone to fail because they had a very short working area. If one builds short limbs the pressure has to be very evenly distributed. I would say that Bear went for the gold in performance for a light weight target bow and did a wonderful job there. I also admire the Pearson Soverigns and Wing target models.
One of the most difficult tasks any bowyer faces is building a target weight bow that is torsionally and verticaly stable. Bear did that.
I went about it in a novel way. I doubt you have ever seen another bow with the limb profile that narrow in a recurve. It definitely proves that one does not have to build a wide limb for stability.
NO kidding here though,. I have really considered building target bows. Problem is I do not believe the target community would embrace them at all. I have doubts that anyone to speak of would give them a serious tryout. If they did , Then I bet they would buy.

God bless, Steve

[ed cowden]

I think we all are blessed to have so many choices. But I see( I am guessing ) 80 % of the people using their hunting bows to shoot their spring , summer and fall 3 D shoots. The most shooting with bows that were designed for hunting tree stands and ground blinds. I have come to enjoy shooting a more stabile and lighter poundage bow on the range. The hunting bow for me is only shot a couple weeks and I use broadheads for most of that. Just my opinion, but I see nothing wrong with having a target bow. The ones made before the compound are interesting. The new ilf bows have not been good for me as far as looks and custom grip and a bow built for my specs.

[njloco]

Second from the top, my wife's bow. I bought it a couple of years ago at one of the 3-D shoots. It's a 66" in green ! I took four shots with this bow ( with the wrong arrows for it ) and all hit center, it's a shooter for sure, amazingly in perfect shape, not a mark on it. So they're out there, you just have to keep looking, took me two years to find the right one.

 


Good luck.

[Sixby]

I just pulled out a super nice dense English walnut blank I have been saving. I think I am going to play with this a bit and see what happens.Mybe build it as a sister bow with koa. That should be a wild combination and I have a couple of pieces that are large enough. Heavy or even double phenolic I beam and it should have pleanty of beef. I think I will probably go for 40 lb and lighter. This should be fun,Soooooooooooo votes or suggestions on low, medium or high wrist grip. What say ye all?

God bless, Steve

[Paul/KS]

Tamerlanes are very popular with the SCA folks.
Might be a niche market there..?  

[ed cowden]

The warmth and beauty of wood. No finger pinch. A bow you can hold at draw long enough to check your shooting form. A target bow does not have to have an aluminum riser with loose tolerance fitting limbs. And if Eaglewing builds it I think you will be surprised at how nice a bow it is to shoot. I also think the older bows are good items to experience. To each his own.

[kurtbel5]

My vote is for a low wrist, with the segmented caps like a Tamerlane....

Please don't show any updates, I am already trying to convince myself I don't want one

It is not working...

I'll be in touch Steve

[Sixby]

Those segmented caps only came on one year model. The horns on that bow are really large. It is a very unique looking bow.
God bless, Steve

[damascusdave]

Originally posted by Sixby:
I just pulled out a super nice dense English walnut blank I have been saving. I think I am going to play with this a bit and see what happens.Mybe build it as a sister bow with koa. That should be a wild combination and I have a couple of pieces that are large enough. Heavy or even double phenolic I beam and it should have pleanty of beef. I think I will probably go for 40 lb and lighter. This should be fun,Soooooooooooo votes or suggestions on low, medium or high wrist grip. What say ye all?

I think those target style risers work best with a high wrist grip style...it seems to me that promotes consistent minimal contact with the grip throat reducing the chances of torquing

DDave

God bless, Steve

[Sixby]

Well  low grip vote and a high grip vote make a medium grip bow. Need some tie breakers here lol.
I believe that all of the old target bows I have owned including the Hc30 were high grips or medium high. grips..
This kind of reminds me of old classic cars. I am of an age and many are in here that love their 57 Chevys and 65 GTOs. Also lighter pull weights seem to be drawing me more and more no matter how much I work out. I even hunted with a 52 lb bow this year and have seldom ever hunted with under 64 lb.


God bless, Steve