spine groups for wood

[Blaino]

wood shaft dealers (99%) of them claim the shafts are grouped in a 5# range i.e. 60-65....

i'm not the brightest crayon in the box but i can count. 60... 61... 62... 63... 64... 65...

that is a 6# range where i come from.

am i missing something?

[bigbadjon]

Nope you are 100% correct. There is one sponsor on here who sells matched cedars. You can also buy bulk and sort them yourself. Anyone who tells you that most people can't shoot well enough to see a diiference in matched shafts is wrong.

[atatarpm]

Bigbadjon, point on sir

[Fletcher]

Spine is very important to me.  I always sort my shafts in max five pound groups, ie 55-59, 60-64, and 3 lbs when I can.  When paper tuning in the basement out of the wind and on a good form day I will get a 3 lb range to shoot perfect holes and can start to see a tear after that.  Fletching clears up the other 2 lbs quickly.  When the peak falls on the line between groups you can play with the side plate, shaft length, point weight or sort the shafts outside the regular spine groups.  Paul Jalon at Elite Arrows normally spines his sets in 3 lb groups.

[mcgroundstalker]

Rocky Mountain Specialty Gear is the way to go... IMHO

... mike ...

[joe skipp]

Surewood Steve is my choice for any and all wood shafts I buy. He is on the money for both spine and weight.

[Blaino]

RMS dosn't have any shafts stiff enough for me. Glad they are trying to get tighter spine groups though.
I get my shafts from Steve also. Good straight shafts for sure.
If I'm going to get serious about wood I guess I'll have to get a spine tester and buy bulk.

[Fletcher]

Without a doubt, a good spine meter is a valuable tool for making good wood arrows.  I used to buy 2 doz matched and then spine those to get the range I wanted.  The remainder became extra practice arrows.  Buying in bulk and matching them yourself works, but be prepared to have lots of shafts left over.  Bulk will vary by at least 8 lbs spine, often more, and the weights will vary at least 100 gr for cedar and 150 for fir.  First time I went thru 100 Surewoods I ended up with 2 premium matched dozens (10 gr and 5 lb, a bunch of good loose shafts and a couple doz stumpers.  Had I been making arrows for myself I would have been way ahead, both time and money, to just buy the matched dozens.

[Knawbone]

What they said !            Can't add much to this thread........... wood is good, good wood is better! The closer you match spine and weight the more consistent the arrows on/of coarse!!!

[MO Bow]

After shooting carbons for the longest time, I switched to woodies a few years ago.  I've only ever used shafts that were spine and grain matched.  It costs a little more, but my last dozen I just made were 74# spine and all ended up between 563-571 grains.  They fly as straight at my old CE 350s...

$10 more per dozen is well worth it.  Archery is all about consistency...in form and equipment.  Unless you can't affors $10 more on a dozen shafts, there's no reson not to do it.

[Blaino]

MO- Where are you getting arrows that have the spine matched like that. spine is more important then weight for me...

[Surewood Steve]

Yes 60-65 is a 6# range, but when I hand spine and a shaft hits right on 60# I rotate 180 degrees and check again.  If I hit 60# again I put into 55-60, because we taper so many shafts and you can drop 1 or 2 pounds of spine.  That way I should stay in range.  So the one's I match are 61-65#.  Some people I know when they spine a shaft they mark the side with a pencil dot and set that side of the shaft next to the bow cut out window.  Not all wood has the same spine on both sides of the edge grain.  This is getting too much information, just go out and shoot some wood arrows and watch them fly!!!

[SCATTERSHOT]

Originally posted by Blaino:
MO- Where are you getting arrows that have the spine matched like that. spine is more important then weight for me...

Try RMSG. Tom can sell you shafts spined like that.