I have used a Damascus glove for many, many years. I still use one, but like Mr. fingers, I have also noticed the change they made a few years ago. They made a thin glove a good bit thinner and I find that I tend to wear small holes in the glove in less than a year of regular use. While I reserve the right to continue using one, I think I am going to give the Berlin glove a try, in the near future. I fear the change in the Damascus glove was not one for the better, in my personal experience.