2419 replacement

[overbo]

I'm looking for what the title says

[damascusdave]

Not sure of the spine on those beasts but the Easton Full Metal Jacket Dangerous Game is available in 300 and 250 spine and is a very heavy arrow, 15 to 17 gpi...hope this helps

DDave

[JRY309]

In aluminum the closest in spine is a 2613(.265 spine and 11.5 GPI) to a 2419(.268 spine and 14.6 GPI) but the 2613 is about 90 grs. lighter in weight.I don't know what it would spine out to be but you could try slipping a 1916 inside of a 2117 shaft,I think I remember reading that Paul Scfafer did that for some heavy spine arrows.Also like damascusdave recommended the Easton Dangerous Game FMJ in the 250 spine or 300.

[T Sunstone]

Are 2419 not made anymore?

[Bonebuster]

Beeman Bowhunter ICS 300 carbon shaft.

Comes out lighter than a 2419 with a complete arrow, so I put nylon rope inside the shaft and it gets the weight up where they are very similar.

Tough shafts...economical too.

[damascusdave]

Originally posted by T Sunstone:
Are 2419 not made anymore?

Easton has apparently stopped making the Grand Slam line of arrows which has a had a big effect on what is currently available...even 2219 Grand Slams have not been made for some time...I am taking good care of the few 2317 Grand Slams I have left

DDave

[Todd Cook]

Hardwood shafts, 100# ?

[overbo]

Have 95-100 spine woods. Too weak in spine!

[overbo]

Good hearing from you Mike,

Just that Habu longbow. I've worked on my shooting form and extended my draw length a good inch(63 to 65 lbs). I have some 2317's but they tune w/ a 125gr Snuffer and I have to have those 160's. Total weight? 9 to 10 gpi would be great a little heavier OK but not lighter. Just want them to fly well. Getting ready for squirrel's and such!

[Wheels2]

The 2613 mentioned above will match spine but the thin wall will not be durable.
Sadly, unless you find a stash of them somewhere, you are likely going to have to shoot a heavy spine carbon.  If you don't mind the weight, I would try and build the penetrators  listed by Mike Walker.

[Elk whisperer]

I got some

[overbo]

Yes Mike that's exactly what I'm using. The one piece BH adapters w/ both 2219's and 2317's but both still aren't stiff enough to handle a 160 Snuffer.

I'll look into some 340's or 300's carbons stuffed w/ something. I've played a bit w/ carbons and this bow but have found the alums easier to tune.

Mr whisper,
If you would part w/ those 2419's? I sure would be interested.

[BigJim]

Depending on draw length, a 7595 gold tip. with a 100g insert and the 160 snuffer will weigh 600+ g


I am shooting  a full length 7595 with 311 up front and a 31.5" draw out of 64 lb longbow at my draw. Total arrow weight is 685g. Near perfect bare shaft and shoots broadheads exceptionally well.

bigjim

[cacciatore]

Originally posted by overbo:
Good hearing from you Mike,

Just that Habu longbow. I've worked on my shooting form and extended my draw length a good inch(63 to 65 lbs). I have some 2317's but they tune w/ a 125gr Snuffer and I have to have those 160's. Total weight? 9 to 10 gpi would be great a little heavier OK but not lighter. Just want them to fly well. Getting ready for squirrel's and such!

Sorry,how long do you cut your 2219-2317 shafts?

[overbo]

I draw a true 28'' and my arrows finish 28.5 bop

[overbo]

Yes Mike I was thinking the swaged route but didn't have a source. I have had swaged alums. before and from what I remember they weren't very well done. Again, FMJ'S, shot those a few years back. I'm just trying to be old cheapo. I guess sometimes you have to pay to play. Oh that 29'' 340 sounds very good in weight as dose those 300's.
Thanks so much my friend!

[cacciatore]

Stephen,I have shot the 2219 cut at 29" from my 65# recurves with a 29" draw(I like to feel the BHs on my index finger) they flew perfectly with a 154/160 point.
So my impression is you are overspined with a LB at a shorter draw,arrow lenght and point weight. Just my opinion.

[overbo]

cacciatore, I sure wish that was true but this bow will bare shaft a 2219 w/ a 100gr screw in feildpoint perfectly out to any distant as well as a 2317 w/ a 125gr. I have 2 other recurves the same draw weight and they both shoot a 2216 w/ a 160gr point very well. When I had the bow built the bowyer told me at least a 340 spined carbon w/ 220gr FP at 27'' draw(60lbs). I too feel it's over spine but all the above mentioned alums show weak when bare shaft tuning w/ more than 125gr FP.