Arrow footing

[willyr1]

Hey fullas. Im shooting a 50lb falco legend. Its a nice bow but not overly fast so im playing around with heavy arrows. Im shooting gold tips and have been shooting 3555s at 425 grain but found that they are going only half way through goats here in New Zealand. The arrow head sticks out one side and fletchings out the other. So its a good kill shot but as the animal is doing its thing they tend to break my arrows and that's getting expensive. So I got some 5575s but have found they are so stiff that I need a 100 grain brass insert and 370 grain field point and 130 grain internal screw in weight giving me a 840 grain arrow. Im an engineer so I can make them but it seams thats a hell of a lot of weight out therethere. So im now thinking its probably a good idea to look at footing a 3555 arrow to get it up to 600 ish grain. Anyone have any ideas on weather I should look at internal or external footings or stick with a really heavy arrow? By the way my 425 grain 3555s are doing 145 fps and the 840 grain 5575 are going 123 fps. Any ideas would be great as there aren't that many trad shooter's in nz and im not really in contact with the few that are here.
Cheers.
Willy Roundhill

[Sockrsblur]

If it was me I would consider putting an external footing ( aluminum shafting) on your 35-55 425gr gold tips. You can experiment with length adjustments ( 1-2") get the weight closer to 500 grains for that arrow. See how it flys.
I understand not wanting to break arrows but maybe think of It a little different... I have always considered a broken arrow a good trade for harvesting an animal. Best of luck Willy  

[willyr1]

Ok cool yes I do see it that way. But here we have these goats in very large populations so its more pest control than hunting for the freezer although we do still make some mean goat currys! The other weekend I lost 2 arrows to poor shots/hitting brunches and deflecting off and broke 3 on animals that cost me 70 bucks in arrows not even counting board heads but im ok with it because I know its all about learning the trade. What size/spine aluminum arrow shaft has internal diameter of the gt carbons. I think its around 8mm.

[katman]

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[willyr1]

Cool thanks thats exactly what I was arfter thanks Katman and Sockrsblur.

[Orion]

Though an external footing will stiffen the arrow a bit and add weight, you could probably just ad a 100 grain brass insert (i.e., substitute a brass insert for the aluminum insert currently in the arrow) and accomplish the same objective.  Arrow should still be stiff enough for your bow. Of course, you could do both.  Good luck.

[Bladepeek]

The little bit of experimenting I've done with 3555s and aluminum footings showed a stiffening effect if I used more than 1" of footing. So, you may be able to get a stiffer 3555 and use a slightly heavier broadhead or insert to compensate, which seems like it would get you what you want.

What are you using for broadheads, by the way?

[willyr1]

I have been playing around with my 3555s and it seams I have been shooting them too stiff as it is. As im new and keen I've jumped the gun a few times now so 5 months arfter picking up my bow for the first time I have just started bare shafting my bow. To fly correctly they are 30 inches with 250 grain in front giving me a arrow at 495 grain. But I still want to hit 600 grain mark, so at my 28.5 inch draw im going to take 1 to 1.5 inches off it today to see if that stiffens it enough to get 100 more grain on there. If not ill look to a footing I think alloy 2117 arrows fit gold tips so im keen to find one and get into it.
Cheers
Willy Roundhill

[willyr1]

Oh and broadheads are tusker 160 grain Delta glue ons. Im sick of alloy broadhead adapters so when I have my arrows right ill make a adapter from steel on high tensile steel at work.

[ozy clint]

you can buy steel screw in BH adapters, no need to make them.

i'd be looking at increasing arrow weight by using heavier heads. put a 100 or 125gr adapter up those deltas.
i used to shoot 35/55's out of a 55# recurve with 250gr points, 100gr insert. total used to be 580gr. foot that and you'll be close to your 600gr target.

[Bladepeek]

If you're bare shafting them, I'd put that 100 gr insert in and then cut from the nock end. And after the first 1", I'd take it down no more than 1/4" at a time until you hit pay dirt (not that I've ever cut one too short and had to give it away     ).