3Rivers Archery



The Trad Gang Digital Market













Contribute to Trad Gang and Access the Classifieds!

Become a Trad Gang Sponsor!

Traditional Archery for Bowhunters






LEFT HAND BOWS CLASSIFIEDS TRAD GANG CLASSIFIEDS ACCESS RIGHT HAND BOWS CLASSIFIEDS


Author Topic: Arrows, FOC, and those TV hunting shows  (Read 285 times)

Offline Liquid Courage

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 50
Arrows, FOC, and those TV hunting shows
« on: August 27, 2014, 09:41:00 AM »
The deer I have shot with my Martin Hunter have all expired within 30 yards or so. All the shots (other than a neck shot) have been a double lung or a heart shot. Now I have always watched hunting shows and I have noticed two things on many of them:
1. The deer get hit and seem to run forever.
2. Sometimes the deer appear to not even realize they have been shot.
Is this the product of light arrows and low FOC? I usually get complete pass throughs and the deer seem to know that they have been hit. Is it due to using a big two blade broadhead (Simmons Tree Shark)along with a heavy arrow (2219's)?
Maybe I have just been lucky or something and the next deer I shoot will not be a compete pass through and run for 100 yards.

Offline bear mike

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 218
Re: Arrows, FOC, and those TV hunting shows
« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2014, 09:46:00 AM »
With my wheel bow I shot a pretty heavy shaft the bow was super fast and pretty quite and a lot of the deer I killed never knew they where hit some of the time they never reacted at all and didn't take three or four steps before falling over.

Offline ChuckC

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 6775
Re: Arrows, FOC, and those TV hunting shows
« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2014, 10:10:00 AM »
Deer are tough, but everything eats them.  They respond in certain ways, one of which is to run like heck.  They also dodge and run from the noise of the bow and the arrow in flight.

I believe   that if you put an arrow through the deer's chest, with very little bone impact, the deer will often kick, look around and go on with what it was doing.  

With some bone impact (ribs), it may run away, then stop and look back to see what it was and if it is chasing (which is why it is important for you to NOT move or jump up and down yelling how you Smoked the deer etc).  

With major bone impact, shoulder, spine, hip, leg, the deer knows it is under attack and runs all out to get away.

Many folks have been shot or in some manner became skewered by a broadhead tipped arrow.  In all the interviews I ever read, they all stated that they felt pressure, but it didn't hurt.
CHuckC

Offline tracker12

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 1796
Re: Arrows, FOC, and those TV hunting shows
« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2014, 11:20:00 AM »
To have a deer shot with an arrow run only 30 yards and expire is pretty impressive.  Most of the deer I have shot over the past 40+ years run farther than that.
T ZZZZ

Online katman

  • Contributing Member
  • Trad Bowhunter
  • ****
  • Posts: 3573
Re: Arrows, FOC, and those TV hunting shows
« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2014, 12:58:00 PM »
Very limited sample size, many variables. Alert level of the deer and what was hit are very important.
shoot straight shoot often

Offline kenn1320

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 242
Re: Arrows, FOC, and those TV hunting shows
« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2014, 01:46:00 PM »
Deer in Ga must be small, the ones Ive shot run a lot further then 30yds.
I'm not a "deer" hunter, I'm a bow hunter that occasionally shoots a deer.

Offline stack

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 250
Re: Arrows, FOC, and those TV hunting shows
« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2014, 03:10:00 PM »
I shot a 6 point at 12 yards. Had a complete pass thru. I actually thought I missed this deer as he made no reaction at all to being hit. He walked about 20 yards looking out into the field and just fell over dead. I saw my arrow hit the ground on the other side of him and thought I shot under him. Made a great big hole right thru the heart.

Offline Bowwild

  • TG HALL OF FAME
  • Trad Bowhunter
  • *****
  • Posts: 5433
Re: Arrows, FOC, and those TV hunting shows
« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2014, 03:16:00 PM »
Since 1970 I've shot a lot of deer, all but 8 with compounds (34 years of compounds).

While I've seen most of the deer I've shot drop I've had only one exhibit very little sign of being hit. Even that one deer did react to the shot by bounding about 4 strides and then stopping. He only hesitated a moment and then came back towards me a couple of strides and fell over.

Maybe, I've never missed a rib?

Offline Rob W.

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 2571
Re: Arrows, FOC, and those TV hunting shows
« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2014, 05:34:00 PM »
I've spine shot a couple and had one run 30 yds. and hit a tree. Everything else has went over 80 yds.
This stuff ain't no rocket surgery science!

Offline ChuckC

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 6775
Re: Arrows, FOC, and those TV hunting shows
« Reply #9 on: August 27, 2014, 05:58:00 PM »
I have had two kick, look around and go back to feeding. . .  then fall over.
ChuckC

Online Tedd

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 1616
Re: Arrows, FOC, and those TV hunting shows
« Reply #10 on: August 27, 2014, 09:52:00 PM »
I'm always surprised at the lack of penetration on those compound tv shows. My gosh those bows should drive an arrow though 2 deer! I guess those expandable really stop an arrow.
Tedd

Offline ChuckC

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 6775
Re: Arrows, FOC, and those TV hunting shows
« Reply #11 on: August 27, 2014, 09:59:00 PM »
I am also surprised at the lousy shot placement I see a lot of the time.  These guys show off how good they are at , like, 50 yards, then screw up the easy shot, on film, and turn around and tell me what a great shot he made.
Whatever
ChuckC

Users currently browsing this topic:

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.
 

Contact Us | Trad Gang.com © | User Agreement

Copyright 2003 thru 2024 ~ Trad Gang.com ©