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Author Topic: how much is too much?  (Read 242 times)

Offline breazyears

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how much is too much?
« on: September 27, 2014, 07:13:00 PM »
The deer archery season opens here in Ontario on Wed. I will be sticking with the wheels this year as I just don't feel im ready for trad just yet. I am getting much better, but I am not out their to play tag.
 Anyway, I was tuning in some arrows to my bow and to get them to fly like darts I had to put 225 grain out front. The arrows are 5575 (400 spine)at full length 32". The bow is a 58# @ 28 mild reflex deflex. The shelf is cut to just shy of center. I would like to get these arrows shorter but that of coarse would mean adding even more weight. Can their be too much?
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Offline Orion

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Re: how much is too much?
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2014, 07:33:00 PM »
There probably can be too much, but you're not close to it yet.  Lots of folks put 300, 350 even 400 grains out front.

I'm surprised you need to put that much weight out front now, if you're drawing 58@28, or do you have a longer draw?

Depending on your arrow plate material, you might be able to thin it down a little, which would accommodate a somewhat stiffer spine without adding additional point weight.  Good luck.

Offline elknutz

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Re: how much is too much?
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2014, 08:15:00 PM »
If they are flying perfect, I would hesitate to cut any off.  To short is hard to make up for in carbons.  If you just want to mess with them and see how it turns out, then go for it.  That's the only way I can learn anything.
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Offline m midd

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Re: how much is too much?
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2014, 08:26:00 PM »
Seems close to me. I shoot 55/75 trads out of my 63# bow. I shoot 300 grains out front on a 29.5" arrow
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Offline Scott E

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Re: how much is too much?
« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2014, 08:50:00 PM »
It's too much when your arrows fly in a noticeable arc from 20 yards. Nothing wrong with a long arrow though.
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Offline southernwoody

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Re: how much is too much?
« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2014, 10:09:00 PM »
I shoot 29.5" gold tips with 300 grains up front. I draw 26.25 and my long bow is 63#@28. Mine shoot great with a smooth release. I think your probably ok. I think it just works out that way for you.
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Offline Panzer

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Re: how much is too much?
« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2014, 10:19:00 PM »
I shoot 260gr up front.

Offline RedShaft

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Re: how much is too much?
« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2014, 10:36:00 PM »
On my arrows I shoot 100 gr brass and 175 gr vpa"s
And I only shoot around 50-51 lbs

My bow k widow just goes thump. Very quiet but still has good enough cast for me. Arrows are around 31" n I draw about 29"
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Offline KSdan

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Re: how much is too much?
« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2014, 11:22:00 PM »
55# 30.5" draw. 31+" arrow .320-.340 spine. 270gr out front.  Pretty flat shooting 0-30y. Really like the higher FOC.
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Offline Biathlonman

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Re: how much is too much?
« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2014, 11:45:00 PM »
If your not already using one a skinny string would probably net you the room to trim a little, but if it ain't broke you might want to leave it alone.

Offline mahantango

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Re: how much is too much?
« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2014, 01:47:00 PM »
Be careful cutting. Carbons will react much more quickly to changes in length than changes in point weight. If you are borderline on spine and shorten them, you may not be able to add enough weight to compensate. You are not, however, all that heavy at this point. I shoot 225gr. on my .400 Goldtips and many go as heavy as 300gr. up front, although that is probably the upper practical limit.
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Offline breazyears

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Re: how much is too much?
« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2014, 06:57:00 PM »
thanks guys.
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Re: how much is too much?
« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2014, 11:25:00 AM »
As long as they fly well and you don't mind the trajectory....
I went down to a .500 spine with a 145 head from a .400 that really needed the weight up front. I would like a bit more weight but this close to season, I am not changing anything.
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