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Author Topic: help me pick inserts and points  (Read 196 times)

Offline Hobies

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help me pick inserts and points
« on: October 27, 2014, 12:16:00 AM »
okay i am a total newb so any advice is welcome. i would hit up the local archery shop for help but they have all closed and the closest one is an 1.5 hours from here.

so i am shooting about #38 lbs out of my bow.

i have 19/16 aluminum arrows that are 29.5". i need to cut them to 28.5" i also want to test a heavier grain 3D point. right now i have 130 and i wanted to buy something around 145.

so i assume i can use a pipe cutter to cut the arrows.

i was told i needed to get glue inserts. i am on lancaster archery site and there are so many choices.

on the points:  http://www.lancasterarchery.com/pdp-converta-bullet-points.html  i am looking at these but i dont have any calipers to check the exact diameter of my 19/16 arrow. plus i didnt know if the point is supposed to be bigger than the diameter of the shaft or not?

as far as inserts, i am just lost. can anyone advise me on which ones to get?

thanks for the help   :)

Offline CoilSpring

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Re: help me pick inserts and points
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2014, 01:57:00 AM »
Welcome Hobie,
Your 1916 arrows' outside diameter is 19/64", having a wall thickness of 0.016".

Pipe cutters work well. I use hot-melt glue sold by archery suppliers, that isn't so brittle.

Cut, clean arrows with alcohol (to degrease), dry, screw field point into insert, hold w/pliars, flame the insert to melt the glue around it, insert the insert into the cut/cleaned shaft and twist to bottom it out, squeezing out the glue, as you push the point againt a 2x4. Drop the arrow shaft/point/insert into a plastic bottle of water for about a minute to cool and harden, pull off the excess glue ring with a cloth or old tee shirt. Shoot it.  

If you cut your arrows, and cannot reuse your existing glue-in inserts for screw-in points, you'll need PDP Converta Inserts  Item # 3480008, but they're backordered.

These inserts for aluminum arrows are sized to fit the arrow size: 1916 and ordered as such.

Then order field points that have an outside diameter equal to or less than the outide diameter of the shaft/insert head. In your case, 19/64" (equal) or smaller (9/32"). Larger diameter field points will work, but they sometimes get hung up on target coverings and are harder to pull out of some targets materials.

Keep in mind, some aluminum insert heads flare out larger than the outside diameter of the shaft, to accept a slightly (next size up) larger OD point.  Say a 1916 (19/64") flaring out to a 20-series size (20/64" = 5/16"). So, in this case you could order a 5/16" OD point to fit the flared insert head.  To get the higher weighted field points (> 125 grains), usually this is the route to go, as smaller OD points do not come in the higher weights.
CoilSpring

Offline Hobies

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Re: help me pick inserts and points
« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2014, 11:07:00 AM »
awesome. thank you so much. i will work on this and let you know how it goes  :)

Offline buckracks7

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Re: help me pick inserts and points
« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2014, 12:32:00 PM »
All you have to do is tell who you order from that you need inserts and 145 gr. field points for 1916s. If you click the Trad Gang Sponsor List at the top of this page, you will find some knowledgeable vendors connected with this site.They will know what you want. The points should be 5/16". If your existing inserts were put in with hot melt glue, you should be able to heat the point, pull the insert out with pliers, and reuse it. Take it slow using little pressure with the tube cutter so you don't compress the shaft, which would make it harder to get an insert in.
If it's in your way, move it.

Offline Hobies

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Re: help me pick inserts and points
« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2014, 08:31:00 PM »
okay i called 3 rivers up and ordered my parts. i was able to reuse the inserts i have so that was good. thanks for the help guys. i know alot more about this right now than i did this morning.

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