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Author Topic: Please Suggest How To Join Two Carbon Arrows?  (Read 423 times)

Offline cloudbaseracer

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Please Suggest How To Join Two Carbon Arrows?
« on: November 03, 2014, 11:48:00 PM »
I want to use some lightweight carbon arrows to form the "poles" for a netting blind. How can I join two of these together to stick in the ground and then take them apart for transport?  What is a good oversleeve to use?  These would be GoldTip .500 or .400 shafts.

I would glue a long field tip into the end that goes into the ground.  This seems to me to be a good way to make a really light and super portable blind.

I don't really have any old aluminum arrows laying around to use so I am hopeful you guys know of something easier to come by?

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Re: Please Suggest How To Join Two Carbon Arrows?
« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2014, 12:37:00 AM »
Glue standard inserts in both ends, then get some threaded rod, or cut the head off some 8/32 thread bolts and glue into one insert. That way you can screw the two shafts together.
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Re: Please Suggest How To Join Two Carbon Arrows?
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2014, 06:32:00 AM »
I would try gluing or epoxying an aluminum shaft "footing" on one carbon arrow and slide it on the other arrow. I think that a 2219 would likely work for either GT, I think it would be tight enough on the .500 shaft for what you are doing. Good Luck!!!

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Re: Please Suggest How To Join Two Carbon Arrows?
« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2014, 07:58:00 AM »
I would like to use the aluminum shafting but as I said earlier I no longer have any laying around. I gave them all away when I went carbon.  

The oversleeve sounds quicker and easier than the screw in insert even though that would work to join them together.  I plan on having the fabric attached to the shafts so they will not be able to spin to join them.  This will be a pre-made, stake out fabric netting using ASAT 3D fabric.

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Re: Please Suggest How To Join Two Carbon Arrows?
« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2014, 10:43:00 AM »
Use the over sleeve and then some small bungie to make them shockcord connected like tent poles. You can get the small diameter bungie at hardware stores or camping section of sporting good stores.

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Re: Please Suggest How To Join Two Carbon Arrows?
« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2014, 10:56:00 AM »
Try gluing a section of wood doweling into one of the ends, leaving a couple inches sticking out.  Then slide the other carbon arrow on top.  No need for threading and quick and easy.  VOILA!
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Re: Please Suggest How To Join Two Carbon Arrows?
« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2014, 03:25:00 PM »
The alum arrow method and bungee chord method as stated above would be the best way for sure. You would be suprised, if you just asked for an alum shaft of the proper diameter on the classifieds. Someone would just give you an old bent one.

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Re: Please Suggest How To Join Two Carbon Arrows?
« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2014, 03:30:00 PM »
maybe one of these will fit your need?
..I have a few and like them.

   http://www.ultimatehuntingandfishing.com/onlinestore/product/eastman-outdoors-adjustable-height-blind-mossyoak-breakup/  

Basically carbon arrows that slide up and down inside eachother to adjust your height...4-5 sections I believe.

You need to be a little gentle with them as the fabric is glued onto the the "shafts"...but even if you pull the fabric off, the shafts are still in a sleeve and work fine.

Shafts have points on the tips where they go into the ground.
Here's a pic of some in use...not the best pic..but the only one I have..

 
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Re: Please Suggest How To Join Two Carbon Arrows?
« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2014, 04:00:00 PM »
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Re: Please Suggest How To Join Two Carbon Arrows?
« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2014, 04:08:00 PM »
lol
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Re: Please Suggest How To Join Two Carbon Arrows?
« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2014, 11:04:00 AM »
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maybe one of these will fit your need?
..I have a few and like them.

    http://www.ultimatehuntingandfishing.com/onlinestore/product/eastman-outdoors-adjustable-height-blind-mossyoak-breakup/  

Basically carbon arrows that slide up and down inside eachother to adjust your height...4-5 sections I believe.

You need to be a little gentle with them as the fabric is glued onto the the "shafts"...but even if you pull the fabric off, the shafts are still in a sleeve and work fine.

Shafts have points on the tips where they go into the ground.
Here's a pic of some in use...not the best pic..but the only one I have..

   
Thanks for the suggestion!

How high do you guys think a good front cover blind should be?

My Ghost Blind is 46" high without the extenders and although it gives great coverage, the issue I have with it is that you can't see through it!  Well, of course you can't and that is the whole purpose for it but it makes it difficult to know where the deer are when you are hiding.  you have to move around to see.  I want something I can see through if I am behind it but still be mostly covered.

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Re: Please Suggest How To Join Two Carbon Arrows?
« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2014, 11:09:00 AM »
You could put inserts in both pieces and then find the appropriate screw to fit and then just screw them together.  Would that work?

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Re: Please Suggest How To Join Two Carbon Arrows?
« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2014, 11:15:00 AM »
well..

I sit on my butt on the ground with a bit of a slouch and adjust the height so I can just look over em.

That height ends up being about 2" lower than my arrow is when I sit on my heels (kneeling) and shooting.

When I see/hear something I kinda roll down/over and get on my knees, bent down and ready.

It's a bit of a risk moving around..but I haven't got caught..yet..
I just move slow and low.

I suppose I should practice shooting from sitting on the ground...but then the blind would be so low there wouldn't be much reason to have it.

I've thought about a very low seat of some type...but I normally have to turn a bit to get lined up for the shot anyway..so why bother...

You can see through the above blind a bit..it has holes.
Not an unobstructed view but you can lay down and take a rest and still be able to see some stuff.
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Re: Please Suggest How To Join Two Carbon Arrows?
« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2014, 11:37:00 AM »
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    .....  I want something I can see through if I am behind it but still be mostly covered. [/b]
sounds like you want something closer to a pop up..

I haven't seen anything inbetween.

One of the above that extended to 5 foot with an adjustable window height could be cool.
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Re: Please Suggest How To Join Two Carbon Arrows?
« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2014, 11:41:00 AM »
To be honest...I think the best thing about the above is that it's small/short. I can go into an area without a lot of cover.
Put it up..have a bit of cover..but not stick out like a sore thumb.

I've watched deer avoid a pop up..just because they didn't want to go by it....ended up using that to my advantage my most successful hunting year..

..the deer would use 1 of two trails.
I put up a pop up by one and hunted the other...lol
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Re: Please Suggest How To Join Two Carbon Arrows?
« Reply #15 on: November 05, 2014, 11:51:00 AM »
Yeah, I have no interest in the weight or bulk of an enclosed blind.

Good idea to use one big blob to get deer to come your way.

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Re: Please Suggest How To Join Two Carbon Arrows?
« Reply #16 on: November 05, 2014, 01:50:00 PM »
Just use cane or bamboo. Cut two lengths, one slightly larger in diameter than other, and slide together. Should work fine...and free/cheap!

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