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Bullfrog 1
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Gold tip inserts. HELP!!!!
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November 09, 2014, 02:12:00 PM »
Ok. I have tried 2 ton epoxy. Jb weld. Hot melt. Cold melt. Big Jim's. I prep them. Clean them and still have some move if I bear down on them. What the heck??
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Piratkey
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Re: Gold tip inserts. HELP!!!!
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November 09, 2014, 02:23:00 PM »
Wich insert ? the standart one,the long one or the brass one ? do you clean the insert with acetone ?
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kennym
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November 09, 2014, 02:27:00 PM »
Be sure to clean the inside of the carbon shaft. There's dust in there.....
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Bullfrog 1
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Re: Gold tip inserts. HELP!!!!
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November 09, 2014, 02:44:00 PM »
I have tried all 3 inserts I guess the long 50 grain aluminum fit best. I rough both the insert and inside the shaft then clean with acetone. Bill
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Yellow Dog
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Re: Gold tip inserts. HELP!!!!
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November 09, 2014, 03:04:00 PM »
I use Big Jim's hot melt stick with a glue gun and an alcohol burner to preheat the insert. Run a brass bore brush in them with a drill motor and then swab them out with a Q-Tip dipped in 91% alcohol. Best stuff I've found since Easton quit selling the black Quick Hit Insert Adhesive. I'm using the 50 grain aluminum inserts and I only put glue on about the last inch of the insert.
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November 09, 2014, 03:06:00 PM »
I have shot just about every carbon out there and aluminum before that. I shot axis and never had one come loose. Bill
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Bladepeek
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Re: Gold tip inserts. HELP!!!!
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November 09, 2014, 03:20:00 PM »
I don't understand what you mean by "move if I bear down on them". Are you talking about twisting them? I don't normally epoxy mine in because I may want to change them at some point, but I have never had any trouble with them loosening with hot melt glue. I can guarantee you if I epoxied them in you couldn't get them loose without twisting the shaft in half.
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Re: Gold tip inserts. HELP!!!!
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November 09, 2014, 03:25:00 PM »
I shoot GT shafts and use the Quick Stick hot melt from Big Jim's. The only insert I have had come loose was an arrow that missed a target and dead centered a big rock. The tip was ruined, as well as the 100gr brass insert. I just heated it up and removed/replaced it. I have never lost an insert in a target since going to the Quick Stick glue.
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shedhunta
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November 09, 2014, 03:49:00 PM »
I use gorilla glue impact tough glue. Can't remove them and never ever had one come out.
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Piratkey
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November 09, 2014, 04:56:00 PM »
I clean the inserts with acetone,the inside shaft with brass bore brush by hand and a Q -tip with some acetone too,but not too much, I heat the insert and add some cold melt , this is work for me.
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Tedd
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November 09, 2014, 05:21:00 PM »
I don't even clean them. Just hot melt from three rivers and they stay in every brand shaft I have used.
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Bullfrog 1
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November 09, 2014, 07:29:00 PM »
I did a couple tonight. I did notice the long aluminum inserts(50 grainers) seem much better fitting. They seem to be better tolerance for sure. I did epoxy them but feel I probably could of got by with hot melt on those. I think the problem with some of the GT inserts are they have to much play to start with. Bill
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BigJim
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November 09, 2014, 08:39:00 PM »
We don't ever have any problem with the gold tip inserts and hot melt...don't even clean first.
The older brass inserts were designed to fit all 5/16" shafts but are sloppy in the the Gold tips. They won't stay as well as the 100g brass or the 50 g aluminum from Gold Tip.
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Re: Gold tip inserts. HELP!!!!
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November 09, 2014, 08:52:00 PM »
Blue top Gorilla Glue for 100 grain brass inserts.
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