I have two of them, and really like them as an ILF alternative (pseudo ILF, really, as they only take Formula limbs from Hoyt). I did get deals on mine from a local dealer I know (traded a compound for one), but here is what I think. If you want something along the lines of an ILF rig but want to shoot off the shelf rather than use rest and plunger, they are ideal, as they have the shelf radius machined into the bow, and you won't have to build some Mickey-Mouse setup on the shelf to shoot them that way, although this really isn't a big deal to do. The stock limbs aren't great, but ok; if you have anything over a 28" draw, get the 62" bow, as the short limbs (60") definitely feel like they start stacking at that point to me. The aftermarket Oly Formula limbs are much, much nicer and the best option is to find a riser used and then order a set of those; you don't need the most expensive ones, like the F7s. I have the carbon/wood 720s on mine, and they are light-years ahead of the stock limbs. Even the wood-glass 720s are fine. The negative, now. Hoyt is overpriced on everything, and the bow when compared to other true ILF options is not a good value for the money, because you are limited to Hoyt Formula limbs only, and because you don't have the option of using a rest and plunger if you decide to try that. You will spend more on Hoyt limbs vs. other true ILF limb options, and get no better limb for your money. I would not recommend that anyone pay the asking price for this bow new, but if you can find one used or on sale from a dealer and you know that you do not want to mess with rest options, but would like to shoot off the shelf only, this riser is a great option and it shoots very, very well. I really like the grips on them, and they are rugged. Paul.