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Author Topic: cap wraps. hmmmm  (Read 377 times)

Offline ChuckC

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cap wraps. hmmmm
« on: May 25, 2015, 08:11:00 AM »
I have been using cap wraps for some time, and have a particular wrap color / feather color pattern that I call mine.  But,  lately it seems I am having some issues with the wraps coming undone.  Unwrapping a bit. Since the feathers are on the wrap, this presents issues.

Anybody else seeing this ?  suggestions to make it go away ?
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Re: cap wraps. hmmmm
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2015, 08:42:00 AM »
I've recently had some Onestringer wraps do this. Unfortunately, I don't have a cure.
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Re: cap wraps. hmmmm
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2015, 10:09:00 AM »
What I like to do is to wipe the shaft down with denatured alcohol and I'll wipe the wrap with a damp cloth.I also like to let my wraps sit for a day before fletching and like alittle more overlap.I like them a 1&1/8" for my 5/16" shafts even though a 1" wrap will do.The only wraps I've had problems with are some Easton wraps I bought on the big auction site,I think they must have been some old stock.I would wrap them and they would start to peel before even fletching.So I just took them off before fletching instead of wasting my feathers.I used to use a lot of EZ crest wraps,super thin and very good adhesive and never a problem and a great wrap.Haven't had any problems with my Onestringer wraps and have used a lot of them.They are my preferred wraps!

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Re: cap wraps. hmmmm
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2015, 10:11:00 AM »
I have not had any issues yet. I buy solid color wraps from One stringer and crest them myself. Then wipe on Minwax Polycrilic over top of whole wrap, waterbased.

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Re: cap wraps. hmmmm
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2015, 12:33:00 PM »
I set 1 of my feathers right on the seam. Haven't had any problems. I clean my shafts with acetone.
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Re: cap wraps. hmmmm
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2015, 12:57:00 PM »
Clarify. .  they are not coming off the shaft, but off themselves ( the overwrap).  They appear clean and I don't touch them hardly at all before I wrap them on.  I like wraps because it is WAY easier to re-fletch once feathers are damaged beyond use.  This is happening a fair amount just lately, once in a while in the past.

Am I supposed to clean THEM before I install them ?
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Re: cap wraps. hmmmm
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2015, 03:53:00 PM »
I put six arrows together not long ago and have one that doesn't want to stay stuck to itself. I never thought much about it till now.   :dunno:
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Re: cap wraps. hmmmm
« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2015, 06:18:00 PM »
That is a way different critter. No, I have not had an issue yet. Only time I noticed any separation was with a Flo. Orange wrap I put on wrong. It separated when I applied my heat gun to it. The "color" came off first. I did not really think to much of it at the time.

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Re: cap wraps. hmmmm
« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2015, 09:20:00 PM »
Lately I've had the leading edge of some wraps lift up or unwrap from itself. I put a drop of fletching cement on that spot.  It's too soon to tell whether that will fix the problem, but so far so good.

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Re: cap wraps. hmmmm
« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2015, 10:40:00 PM »
I've been designing my own wraps with One Stringer for the past few years and have never had a problem with them separating. I also use their clear vinyl  double dog over the designer wrap..
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Re: cap wraps. hmmmm
« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2015, 11:11:00 PM »
I use OneStringer wraps and have ZERO issues....ever!   Those things are the stickiest material I have ever seen and they can be a bear to peel off the shaft.  I don't do the double dog option.   I DO buy only reflective wraps.

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Re: cap wraps. hmmmm
« Reply #11 on: May 26, 2015, 11:19:00 PM »
ChuckC,
I've never had a wrap unwrap from the overlap, but I do wipe the wrap itself down with denatured alky before I overlap so everything is clean. I've always used the wraps from 3Rivers.
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Re: cap wraps. hmmmm
« Reply #12 on: May 26, 2015, 11:24:00 PM »
If you use one stringer wraps, i'd say you must have contaminated the wrap somehow when you were applying them....

I've never had an issue with them coming loose like you described.... I always do a quick wipe of denatured alcohol while they are still on the sheet and my arrow shafts too before applying them.... just the oil on your fingers could cause problems.....

Spraying the leading edge of your wrap with helmsman spar varnish after they are applied will keep the ends from peeling back on you when you get a pass through on 3 D targets or a bale.

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Re: cap wraps. hmmmm
« Reply #13 on: May 27, 2015, 01:33:00 PM »
Always wondered what value these wraps provide, other than looks.  Is there any?  Why not just paint them?

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Re: cap wraps. hmmmm
« Reply #14 on: May 27, 2015, 04:54:00 PM »
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Always wondered what value these wraps provide, other than looks.  Is there any?  Why not just paint them?
There are many advantages..........
When or if it comes time to re-fletch,  you can just peel the wrap off with the old fletch.  Wipe down the shaft with alcohol,  lac thinner,  whatever you want to remove any remaining sticky stuff.  MUCH better than scraping up old fletching.
They are super fast to put together!  No dip tubes, paint and everything else that goes with that process.
The reflective option is awesome too.  If you think you've lost an arrow,  go back when the sun goes down with a flash light.  Most times, even if the arrow is mostly covered in debris,  it will jump out at you with a reflection you can see from outer space!  I love the wraps.
I love traditional dipping and cresting too,  but I save that for wood shafting.  I wrap all my carbons.

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Re: cap wraps. hmmmm
« Reply #15 on: May 27, 2015, 11:07:00 PM »
I wrap my carbons because painting them is a pain. I wrap the alum shafts that I am recycling as well. Less mess, less hassle. I use Onestringer wraps only.

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Re: cap wraps. hmmmm
« Reply #16 on: May 27, 2015, 11:37:00 PM »
I've tried wraps and they generally look good, but as noted in some of the comments above their quality and durability can be unpredictable.  

For arrows where reliability is important (no snaggy, loose or poorly glued edges) I still think painted caps have some advantages.

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Re: cap wraps. hmmmm
« Reply #17 on: May 28, 2015, 09:14:00 AM »
I've been using Onestringer wraps and double dogs for about three years now. I clean the shafts and the base of fletch or vane with denatured alcohol. I also wipe off the wrap on the sheet. I never had a problem of any kind. They are very durable.....Dave

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Re: cap wraps. hmmmm
« Reply #18 on: May 29, 2015, 07:31:00 AM »
Ive used many wraps over the years. Different brands.
None have ever thought of coming loose.
One thing I always do is take a smooth rod or shaft and burnish the overlapping area.
Maybe Ive been lucky, but Ive never had one even thing about peeling.
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