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Author Topic: What poundage and cane arrows?problem solved  (Read 467 times)

Offline stringstretcher

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What poundage and cane arrows?problem solved
« on: October 09, 2007, 06:45:00 PM »
Well I have made some cane arrows, but am not happy at all with how they fly.  My draw length is only 27" and I shoot around the 50lb mark.  If I get my cane arrows to spine out at that poundage they just don't seem to fly well.  Maybe, to get down to that poundage, they have to be really small in diameter.  What can I do....cut some about 4 ft long and start there????lol.  There has to be a way to make smaller diameter cane arrows work.....talk to me mickey, dino, anyone........HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
For those shooting cane, what is the shortest and lightest poundage anyone is shooting?
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Re: What poundage and cane arrows?problem solved
« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2007, 06:48:00 PM »
How are they flying? Are they hitting left? Right? Wobbling?
Just might help the pros answer better....good luck.
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Re: What poundage and cane arrows?problem solved
« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2007, 07:25:00 PM »
Charles what's happening with your canes? What bow are you shooting them out of? Cane is usually very tolerant of bow design and poundage.

I've only had one or two canes out of dozens I didn't like the flight on and one of those shot alright if I turned it cock feather in. I shoot about 42-48# on my bows and draw about 27" and cut my canes about 30" long  (of course 2" of that is taken up with self nock and trade point or flint head.)
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Re: What poundage and cane arrows?problem solved
« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2007, 08:44:00 PM »
Mickey.  I am shooting them out of one of my Dyrad blank bows right not.  Have not shot them out of my self bows, going to tomorrow.  I have one arrow that has perfect flight.  All of the others wobble, hit extreme left and corkscrew to the target.  I played with a couple tonight and got them a little straighter, will see tomorrow.  I should have cut them longer, but these are cut to 27" to the bop.
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Re: What poundage and cane arrows?problem solved
« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2007, 08:50:00 PM »
to bad Nick isnt around, he's the man when it comes to cane/bamboo!

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Re: What poundage and cane arrows?problem solved
« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2007, 09:18:00 PM »
Nick uses Tonkin cane. I surmise by the question regarding diameter that this is river cane or switch cane.

For grins, try wrapping some soldering wire behind the head and see if they straighten up. Sounds like they need some more point weight.

Also try putting two nails in the wall 26" apart and put the good flying arrow on there and hang a can goods in the middle and see where it bends to. Mark it. Then try it with the ones that don't fly and see if they don't bend quite as far.
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Re: What poundage and cane arrows?problem solved
« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2007, 10:12:00 PM »
All of my cane or bamboo arrows spine around 90#'s and i shoot them with 45-50# bows.  I use a heavy broadhead, 160 grains or more, and self nocks.  They all fly good and some are great flyers.  Some even flew well out of my 30# Stemmler bow.

I did have one that was a crazy flyer until I discovered that I had made it backwards with the taper forward.

I make most of my bamboo arrows from Home Depot garden stakes.

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Re: What poundage and cane arrows?problem solved
« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2007, 05:34:00 AM »
I shoot my canes out of 45 to 53 lb. longbows and selfbows. I usually try to match them pretty close by weight and don't worry too much about spine. My flight problems have usually been because I didn't have them straight enough on the nock end of the arrow.
Also try putting the stiff side of the arrow toward the side plate of the bow. Hope this helps.
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Re: What poundage and cane arrows?problem solved
« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2007, 06:43:00 AM »
Cane is natures carbon. I've found very few that wouldn't fly unless it was switch cane.

Tonkin is awesome and river cane is my second choice. I'm not the cane guru Micky is so I'll let him have this one.  :thumbsup:  

Watch so you don't orient the nodes high side in. CK

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Re: What poundage and cane arrows?problem solved
« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2007, 07:42:00 AM »
CK the high side of the node alternates from node to node, first on one side, then the other side giving room for either the sheath or the flower depending on sex of the plant, so at some point no matter what, it is going to be facing in where it contacts the side plate, or down where it contacts the shelf (unless you shoot off your hand)depending on orientation of the nock slot.
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Re: What poundage and cane arrows?problem solved
« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2007, 07:59:00 AM »
Don't know much bout cane, cept the 2 Cheapshot gave me shot better than any non-carbon arrows I've ever had. Durable son-of-a-guns, pretty easy to get the weight wanted, and very "forgiving" in my opinion.

If I was into primative gear, or if I ever couldn't get carbon, I'd prolly shoot cane exclusively.
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Re: What poundage and cane arrows?problem solved
« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2007, 09:26:00 PM »
I solved the problem.  I just made another bow and got the poundage up to 55 and the cane shoots like darts......phew....sure am glad they were not spined for 80 lbs.....lol
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Re: What poundage and cane arrows?problem solved
« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2007, 11:23:00 PM »
well, that's one way to do it   :clapper:    :biglaugh:
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