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Offline LBR

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Re: Best type of string
« Reply #20 on: September 12, 2015, 10:19:00 PM »
I'd say its not a controlled test, because the simple fact is it's not.  Obviously there was something amiss because even with a fairly heavy draw weight and in MS heat I never had to "constantly adjust" a Dynaflight string.  Occasionally, but not constantly.

Noise, without measuring in a controlled environment, is opinion.  No point in trying to argue that.  Tons of variables to consider.  

I prefer BCY-X myself.

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Re: Best type of string
« Reply #21 on: September 13, 2015, 12:49:00 AM »
Well i guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one.... If serious field testing using the same bow isn't controlled enough for you, i don't know what would be.... Its the only kind of testing most archers will use.

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Re: Best type of string
« Reply #22 on: September 13, 2015, 04:49:00 PM »
It's one of those things, like dodge, chevy, or ford.  Penzoil, Mobil 1, quaker state, or Valvoline, we all got what we like to use, and we all have our "test" we've done, and anecdotes that make our's superior over there's.  It's kinda funny but the products discussed here are made primarily by either Brownell, or BCY, and many of them discussed are simply one manufacturer's version of the other.  Yes, Rhino (Brownell) is lower stretch than D-97 (BCY).  Rhino is newer.  But Rhino (Brownell) and D-10 (BCY) are very similar in strength.
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Re: Best type of string
« Reply #23 on: September 13, 2015, 05:14:00 PM »
If rhino is made from a higher grade of HMPE, then it likely will have (slightly)less stretch, pending all else is the same (over-all diameter, build quality, etc.).  I've never been able to get an answer as to what specific materials are in their products so I can't make a comparison that way.  I don't care to use their products after the way I was treated by a CSR.  

Knowing the grade would give a much better idea of how the materials would perform if they did.  It's like someone asking a bowyer "what's in your bow" and the answer being "wood".  Doesn't tell you a whole lot.

There are only three major bowstring manufacturers in the world at this time.  BCY, Brownell, and Majesty (Japan).  

BCY dominates the market.  Although Brownell owns the "Fast Flight" name, the founders of BCY invented it when they worked at Brownell.  BCY is also responsible for the first blended bowstring material, and they are the first and only to be authorized to use the newest and highest grade of Dyneema, SK90.  Point being, BCY is leading the way.

Field testing is just that.  It's saying a bow shoots X fps because that's what your eyes or some homemade equipment told you--opinion.  Field testing won't hold up in court.  
 

Controlled testing is using a Hooter Shooter and a  properly calibrated chronograph.  

I have 2 decades worth of experience building strings as a business, 15 or more of that with Dynaflight '97.  I've built literally thousands of Dynaflight '97 strings.  That would edge out 4 years shooting two different strings, at least for me.

Mike, I agree--it boils down to what someone likes and/or believes in.

If stretch/creep is a problem, materials like 452X and BCY-X solve it.  If you want to stick with a 100% HMPE product, 8190F and 8190 Universal are made with the highest grade available.

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Re: Best type of string
« Reply #24 on: September 13, 2015, 09:44:00 PM »
Myself?  I've settled on 450+.  8 strands of that stuff served with .024 halo and I get perfect nock fit on the Easton X-nocks on my Easton Axis Trads.  Just twisted up one tonight for my new to me Toelke Kestrel. Turned out really good.  Man! I love 450+.  The durability is not an issue for me.  If I need one, I just twist one up.  And if I keep the string waxed good, it lasts all year. I just seem to get great performance out of 8 strands of that material.  I pad to 12 in the loops.

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Re: Best type of string
« Reply #25 on: September 13, 2015, 10:06:00 PM »
I liked 10 or so strands of 450+ when I shot it--it's a really big strand compared to most materials.  Really don't remember why I swapped to Dynaflight '97 when it came out, but I reckon I tried it and liked it better.  I tried the BCY-X when it came out, and it's got the best of them all for me.  It's fourth generation 450 (Premium, them Plus, then 452X, now BCY-X).  May be 5th generation...seems like the very first one wasn't Premium, but I can't remember the name.


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Re: Best type of string
« Reply #26 on: September 14, 2015, 06:41:00 AM »
Yep - love the blended strings.  Chad, I just may have to give X a try.  About how many strands of X would be the same as 8 strands of 450+?

Thanks!

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Re: Best type of string
« Reply #27 on: September 14, 2015, 08:47:00 AM »
Been a while since I've used 450+, but I think it's 18-20.  X is a pretty small thread.

If you decide to try it, let me know. I can help you out on that.

Chad

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Re: Best type of string
« Reply #28 on: September 14, 2015, 09:04:00 AM »
Thanks Chad! I appreciate the info.

Steve
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Re: Best type of string
« Reply #29 on: September 14, 2015, 10:24:00 AM »
always love reading Chads posts.  I have been using X over a year now and love it.  I build "skinny strings" with it though.  10/12 strands is the usual.  I had a 10 strand on my Black Widow for over a year and after shooting the bow all season and through tourney season, the string still held its brace height.  The X, to me, is a good bit quieter than d97, but i still build a lot of both.  I think both are great materials.
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Re: Best type of string
« Reply #30 on: September 14, 2015, 09:30:00 PM »
fury for me
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Re: Best type of string
« Reply #31 on: September 15, 2015, 07:12:00 AM »
Hey Mr. Beach, love your birthdate!

As for the grizzly, I'm shooting a 70's bow I bought about 15 years ago. this is my second and they are good shooters.

For the past year I have been shooting a 9 strand, 3 ply with 6 extra strands in the loops of b-50/b55 mix. No silencers, brace height at 7 5/8". Bow stays strung, and hasn't moved any!

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