Is this a sign of a weak arrow?

[RiverRatXJ]

Hello all. I know that these are fletched and all, but would you consider this an effect of weak arrows? They stick like this every single time around 10-12 yards. Weirdly it seems when I shoot from further, say 20+ yards, they tend to straighten up some. I need to get some bare shafts I guess to test with but until then I figured you guys opinions would be helpful. 60# recurve 400 spine Beman Centershot arrow. 100g tips
     
   

[J. Cook]

Need to know arrow length, type of bow (looking for deviation from center shot) and draw length.

[Jim Wright]

Right or left hand shooter would help as well. If you are right-handed, weak spine is the first thing that comes to mind but as J. Cook has replied the rest of the information would be helpful.

[Pivo]

Short draw your bow and see if they straighten up maybe

[VA Elite]

I can't tell without a bare shaft

[NothingHappenedToday]

Could also be a sign of the opposite -- arrow is too stiff, bouncing off the riser and flying tail left before it straightens out. What's the length of the arrow, your draw lenghth, and centershot of the bow?

[RiverRatXJ]

Bow is an old Browning Cobra II 60lbs at 28". Im right handed (so is the bow...) and the arrows are 28.5". My draw length is around 28"

[RiverRatXJ]

The bow seems to be cut really close to center if not center.  I dont really have the tools to accurately measure it on hand right now.  Also im using a Bear rug rest kit if that matters.

[J. Cook]

Too stiff - cutting any carbon really stiffens the shaft quickly.  At 28.5" you have a fairly stiff shaft.  You'll likely need to shoot a total of 300 grains or more up front.  Try some heavy points (you can get a test kit fairly cheaply).  They'd likely be perfect at 30" or so.

[Orion]

I agree they're too stiff and bouncing off the riser to give the impression they're too soft.  More weight up front needed or leave them longer.  

If your draw is 28 inches and BOP is 28.5, there's not a lot of  clearance from your bow hand when shooting broad heads.  Good idea to leave them longer on that account alone.  Good luck.

[RiverRatXJ]

Thanks for the input guys! Will be getting a test kit.

[VA Elite]

they good to me honestly. but I have very very little knowledge. I shot my bare shafts and got them to hit with my fletch arrows and the. shot my broadheads with the arrow fletched and they flew with my field points. short distance about 16 yards. these guys can really fine tune a bow and arrow. listen to them....Ahhh, now that I turned my phone I see now what y'all see. but to me it looks like they are too stiff, but what the heck do I know. y'all know way more.

[Possum Head]

I shoot full length 400's with a total of 275 up front from my 60 lb longbow. I say load her up as well and let us know how it goes.

[Zradix]

paper test em

[trad_bowhunter1965]

Originally posted by VA Elite:
I can't tell without a bare shaft

DITTO

[Wheels2]

Shooting a bare shaft and watching the nock tells me more about tune than anything else.
Carbons are picky about changes in length.  A 1/2" means a lot.  More so than 25 grains of point weight

[RiverRatXJ]

Thanks everybody. I tend to like these arrows for whatever reason so I think im going to get a test kit of them bare and full length and shoot em up. Until this year, the last time I shot a bow was when I was a preteen. So I just told the local guy what pound bow I was shooting and kinda just picked a random length to cut them.  I did get a small buck already this year with them tho    Still, I would like to tune this thing out. You know, its never good enough...

[arrowbuster]

Bare shaft will tell the story. Take your pocket knife and get rid of the fletchings on your ugliest one. From your set up Id guess your over spined but they sure look weak. Nock height will make a difference too.