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Author Topic: 20 yard group diameter  (Read 1933 times)

Offline highlow

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Re: 20 yard group diameter
« Reply #20 on: December 27, 2015, 10:10:00 AM »
Sounds like fun. I would if I had anyone with whom to shoot. Not that many trad shooter in the area.
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Re: 20 yard group diameter
« Reply #21 on: December 27, 2015, 10:13:00 AM »
I've built groups at 20 yards with 3 arrows touching, but I've flung embarrassingly large groups. My "average" is not the best and not the worst. I know I can put one arrow where it needs to be.
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Re: 20 yard group diameter
« Reply #22 on: December 27, 2015, 10:20:00 AM »
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X2 Steelhead, groups mean nothing in real life hunting.
Shot this 60 arrow group at 20 yards several years back with a hunting rig Pittsley Predator, 62" 53@30 and 550gr 2117's. A month later over a three week period I managed to cleanly miss three different bucks under 20 yards.

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Re: 20 yard group diameter
« Reply #23 on: December 27, 2015, 11:07:00 AM »
I agree with the 6" also. If I am out of the 3" though, I am mad at myself. I stay mad quite a bit!!!!

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Re: 20 yard group diameter
« Reply #24 on: December 27, 2015, 11:13:00 AM »
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Re: 20 yard group diameter
« Reply #25 on: December 27, 2015, 11:16:00 AM »
A real good day would be to hit a Soft Ball on every shot.......most times I'm real happy to hit a soccer ball on every shot. Many days I'm not happy.......lol
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Re: 20 yard group diameter
« Reply #26 on: December 27, 2015, 11:29:00 AM »
Once you get to the point you have to quit shooting groups because to are damaging your arrows you are getting there....

but amazingly enough you don't get there by shooting groups at all. Much better to have multiple dots on your target.... aim small, miss small

When shooting groups, you can't help focusing on your arrow knocks already in the target, and subconsciously you are adjusting your aiming point with each shot. Shooting 5 different spots on an NFAA 300 round is good, or 3 different spots on a 300 Vegas round will sharpen up your game indoors.... but when shooting a 3D target its best to shoot one arrow at a time & pull it.... THAT is good hunting practice.

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Re: 20 yard group diameter
« Reply #27 on: December 27, 2015, 11:45:00 AM »
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Originally posted by ranger 3:
X2 Steelhead, groups mean nothing in real life hunting.
Shot this 60 arrow group at 20 yards several years back with a hunting rig Pittsley Predator, 62" 53@30 and 550gr 2117's. A month later over a three week period I managed to cleanly miss three different bucks under 20 yards.

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Re: 20 yard group diameter
« Reply #28 on: December 27, 2015, 01:19:00 PM »
10 inches.
Now some days I can stack them. But in all honesty it's more like 10"" average overall. Some of you guys must bee shooting machines
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Re: 20 yard group diameter
« Reply #29 on: December 27, 2015, 01:25:00 PM »
Richard, that was a 257, only had four 3's. Regarding the misses on the bucks, I had a real bad habit of shifting my focus from where I wanted to hit on an animal to their eyes to see if they saw me drawing at the last second. Once I figured that out and never took my eye off the "spot" that problem seemed to go away.
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Re: 20 yard group diameter
« Reply #30 on: December 27, 2015, 01:37:00 PM »
Kmatt...zip code funny...I know the feeling well.

Offline Gray Buffalo

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Re: 20 yard group diameter
« Reply #31 on: December 27, 2015, 03:35:00 PM »
In my groups I seem to always one flyer.
I try not to let my mind wander...It is too small and fragile to be out by itself.

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Re: 20 yard group diameter
« Reply #32 on: December 27, 2015, 05:43:00 PM »
I practice a lot between 15 and 20 yards.  I can get 4"-6" groups 90+% of the time, sometimes better, rarely worst.

Having said that I have friends that would be lucky to get 8" groups and have killed PILES of deer
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Re: 20 yard group diameter
« Reply #33 on: December 27, 2015, 06:27:00 PM »
Its the first one that matters, unless you can get the deer to stand still for two more...

  I have always noticed that my best shot is my first during practice and hunting,maybe because I am not thinking about what I am doing ,I am just shooting it with memory, the ones after that always hit a little low to the first one
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Re: 20 yard group diameter
« Reply #34 on: December 27, 2015, 08:04:00 PM »
If you are aiming at a spot and hits within 6” of that spot you are doing well, that is a 6” group but you could hit 6” high on one shot, hit 6” low, right or left on the others. That’s 12” if you shoot 6” high and 6” low. I typically do that on any given day but most of the time it’s within 3” or 4” on good days within 2” depending on what ruler I’m carrying or if I’m really feeling it I’ll take my micrometer.    :readit:
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Re: 20 yard group diameter
« Reply #35 on: December 27, 2015, 11:06:00 PM »
On a 300 target I can't remember the last time I shot lower than 200, usually in the 230-250 range with a few targets at the high of 258. this is with either a recurve or long bow a pinch over 60 lbs. I very handily missed the only buck I had a shot at this last season.

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Re: 20 yard group diameter
« Reply #36 on: December 28, 2015, 07:38:00 AM »
Usually my first 2 shots are good
(within 2-3 inches) then the third is a flyer.  I guess I cannot shoot well under my own pressure.
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Re: 20 yard group diameter
« Reply #37 on: December 28, 2015, 02:32:00 PM »
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barring the Robinhood this is my typical 20 yrd group.
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Re: 20 yard group diameter
« Reply #38 on: January 02, 2016, 07:50:00 PM »
Curiously....I tend to shoot 3 1/2"-4" at about 17 yards very consistently.....move to 20 yards ..concentration becomes much more difficult unless aiming a a small ,highly visible aiming point. Unfortunately deer don't come with those??? Really like yellowdogs target post....good stuff.....Jackdaw
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Re: 20 yard group diameter
« Reply #39 on: January 02, 2016, 09:34:00 PM »
If I don't have them one behind the other, I'm not a happy camper but, it does get expensive,    :bigsmyl:

Now to come back down to earth, if you want to shrink your diameter, practice form !
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