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Author Topic: HH bug got me ... Part One!  (Read 152209 times)

Offline WESTBROOK

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #13880 on: June 19, 2013, 06:15:00 PM »
RC, you should really enjoy that bow! As sweet a bow as you will find.

I talked to Steve yesterday, my Green Classic will be ready and waiting at the Grayling shoot this weekend.

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #13881 on: June 19, 2013, 06:21:00 PM »
I think tapered shafts look great but wont make you a better shooter. Dave wallace won withparallels. Most of the guys shooting at the worlds also use parallels.year after yr .I think they are onto something.
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #13882 on: June 19, 2013, 06:45:00 PM »
Has Steve Turay's wait time come down?
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #13883 on: June 19, 2013, 08:13:00 PM »
After reading all the post about shooting with a lower brace height I had to give it a try. I moved my brace height from 6 3/8" down to 6" and my groups tightened up. Thanks for the tip on this.

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #13884 on: June 19, 2013, 08:27:00 PM »
Don't know what bow your shooting bicster but give 5.5 - 5.75 a try. I really get some improved speed out of the bow and have not noticed a single negative.
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #13885 on: June 19, 2013, 08:34:00 PM »
I've been shooting tapered wood shafts for about 25 years and believe they are more forgiving. Can't prove any thing, but given the extra effort involved in tapering a shaft it shows I really do believe it works and I've made and shot hundreds of arrows in that time.

Besides, I really like the feel of a 5/16 shaft between my fingers compared to 11/32.
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #13886 on: June 19, 2013, 09:03:00 PM »
I tried tapered shafts from a few bows a while back and didn't notice a difference in my bows cut close or to center.

 I started building self and backed bows that average 1/2" from center and shoot tighter groups with my tapered shafts. My Shelton isn't cut to center and it likes tapered shafts better too.

 I'm a believer!

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #13887 on: June 19, 2013, 10:20:00 PM »
Six pages in four days?  What Hill interest...?

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #13888 on: June 19, 2013, 10:28:00 PM »
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Originally posted by Nate Steen .:
Six pages in four days?  What Hill interest...?
And just think about those reading and not posting. Lots of Hill style interest out there not able to be gauged.

I'm interested in the tapered arrow comments. I have one set but they are for my 64# Hill style...I haven't shot it much at all of late. I'm enjoying the 50ish Hill bows I own.
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #13889 on: June 19, 2013, 10:33:00 PM »
I have shot tapered arrows on Recurves RD and Hill bows and I prefer them as well.  The only down side is its a little harder to get the weight up.
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #13890 on: June 19, 2013, 10:34:00 PM »
RC and Westbrook congratulations on your bows. I ordered a Classic and now the wait begins.

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #13891 on: June 19, 2013, 10:35:00 PM »
How much does tapering reduce spine?
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #13892 on: June 19, 2013, 10:49:00 PM »
Maybe a pound or two.... maybe!
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #13893 on: June 19, 2013, 11:20:00 PM »
I gave my NM Classic a try at 5 3/4", but the flight of my arrows wasn't as good as when it is at 6 1/8". With the lower BH, the feathers are touching the riser, so maybe that has something to do with the poor flight. Got it back up to 6" for my next practice session.

I haven't played with the Misty Dawn, which also shoots well at 6 1/8".
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #13894 on: June 20, 2013, 06:22:00 AM »
I had the same experience with my Dave Johnson. Set the brace low and 5" shields were touching the shelf when arrow was nocked and string at rest. I went to 4" shields for it and continued trying low brace and the shorter feathers helped. I also tried cock feather in when shooting per Nate Steen's advice and flight improved greatly.

Shootin' and tinkerin' seem to go hand in hand. I think we're all trying to find the perfect combo of arrow, brace, feather, etc... as we should.
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #13895 on: June 20, 2013, 08:22:00 AM »
Good morning RC,

Congratulations on your pending Sheldon acquisition!

If you get along with your Sheldon as well as I did mine... you're gonna love it!!

 

 

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #13896 on: June 20, 2013, 08:28:00 AM »
Now we are talking!   Good shot Mudd! Nuthin better than a little blood on the bow.

Don't you know those old timey longbows are no good for hunting  :laughing:

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #13897 on: June 20, 2013, 09:53:00 AM »
Like Charlie, I love tapered shafts from Hill bows.  They seem to fly like lasers.  Parallel are fine, but I perceive a difference.  

Another solid reason to shoot tapered shafts, when you order them, the best shafts are often used for tapered shafts, they are straighter, with good grain, because when they run a crooked shaft on the taper machine they would get garbage out. This means less straightening and more attention to weight groupings as well.

I think I'll be making some strings with tiny loops, I've made some, guess I never really noticed any difference.

I've noticed bowyers are cutting the string grooves more shallow all the time, I'm unsure if padded loops are even necessary anymore...my most recent bow had the padded loops protruding from the side of the bow. More apt to get rubbed.

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #13898 on: June 20, 2013, 10:13:00 AM »
I'm with you Nate. I keep checking in but there seems to be a change. I was encouraged when I saw your posts.
Recently bought a dozen Hill broadheads just because you should have them if you shoot a Hill bow even if you don't use them.  I found what they say about arrow flight is true. We've had some pretty gusty wind as of late and these heads stay on track. Using 5-1/2 sheild and parabolic on 1916 with glue in aluminum broadhead adapters and 35/55 GT's with brass glue in broadhead adapters out of a 50# @28 HH Wesley Special drawn 27-1/2.
I haven't worked up a set of Surewoods yet, that's next on the list. Suggestions here would be appreciated, heads are 160gr once file sharpened, shafts would be 28 BOP.
I picked one head as a sacrificial lamb for sharpening practice. I've been using mill bastards 10 to 6 inch and a 5/16 and 1/4 round chain saw files. It's going pretty well but any insights on sharpening would be appreciated. The No Mercy Zwickeys are ready to go but I would really like to give the Hill's a whirl in the quiver, gotta love the way they track in flight and I have had no problems with getting them to spin true.
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #13899 on: June 20, 2013, 10:40:00 AM »
58...I love the Hill heads...work well for me.  I use a 1/4" chainsaw file,  sharpen one side (rw), flattening the bevel from the factory bevel until I create the burr, then lightly take off the burr...done.  Jagged sharp edge that will take off hair but holds up better in a backquiver.  Looks like the edge of a soup can...lol.  I stay away from the flat file on the Hill heads.

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