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Author Topic: HH bug got me ... Part One!  (Read 133829 times)

Offline Mudd

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #14140 on: July 10, 2013, 07:47:00 AM »
Thanks for sharing this build with us Charlie.

I will be keeping my fingers crossed for you this morning as you unwrap "the new baby".

I hope you will post up pictures of it before any of the afterbirth is cleaned off.

I have faith that it will be exactly what you planned and envisioned in your "minds eye" when you were 1st engineering it in your head.

God bless,Mudd

PS: birth weight isn't nearly as important as mature weight.....lol
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #14141 on: July 10, 2013, 08:59:00 AM »
Thanks for sharing your bow build Charlie, awesome and educational!
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #14142 on: July 10, 2013, 09:11:00 AM »
Loving the build Charlie.
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #14143 on: July 10, 2013, 10:24:00 AM »
I thought it was time to bring over some pictures of "The Amazon Lady-Born on the 4th of July" because I think there a few folks that come to this thread that don't really read anything else.

JD Berry Vixen 68" and 47@28

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks for looking!

God bless,Mudd
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #14144 on: July 10, 2013, 11:12:00 AM »
That is beautiful Mudd.
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #14145 on: July 10, 2013, 03:12:00 PM »
A few pictures from this morning....

Took the glued up blank from the form and centered a string on each end. Marked under the string at center of the bow.
   
With a true straight edge I drew a line down the length of the limb on center.
   
Marked the ends of the riser.
   
Measuring from the centerline I marked the width of the bow at the fade out... 1 1/8" wide.
   
From the center of the bow I measured 33" and marked the nock location... added an inch to bow tip.

Again from center line I measured 3/4" at the nock.
Connected the lines at the handle and at the nocks for the limb profile and ground away to the lines.... I gave up on sawing the bow out a long time ago. Fiberglass eats bandsaw blades and grinding is fast and easy.    
     
Here is the roughed out bow strung with the tiller string. Limbs bending within 1/8" of each other at this stage and plenty of weight to work with.
   
Hunt Sharp

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #14146 on: July 10, 2013, 03:15:00 PM »
My Schulz Tembo has one lam of boo that runs down the front of the handle.  I do not see many bows made this way anymore.  What benefits or negatives are there to this design?  I assume it is more labor intensive than just glueing on the handle to all 3 lams?  I like the looks but wonder what effect there is if any of having the handle sandwiched between the limb lams?

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #14147 on: July 10, 2013, 03:16:00 PM »
Looks like Charlie has been working hard!
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #14148 on: July 10, 2013, 03:33:00 PM »
Greg,

Not sure there's any real advantage to building a bow that way. If there is clear glass on the belly it hides the ends of the fades of the riser. Some say it makes a stronger handle, but I don't buy that.
Personally I don't care for the looks as much. Just personal taste.
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #14149 on: July 10, 2013, 04:10:00 PM »
Looking great Charlie.  Really appreciate you sharing your time/talent with us.  I had asked about your term "Buchanan dips" earlier in your BA...not sure if you caught that question.

Mudd - might just be me, but that bow looks better in this thread.     :bigsmyl:
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #14150 on: July 10, 2013, 04:22:00 PM »
Looks like everything stayed where you put it Charlie... looking good!

God bless,Mudd
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #14151 on: July 10, 2013, 06:12:00 PM »
Awesome looking bow Mudd, I really like that white. looking forward to seeing the finished bow Charlie also enjoy watching the build.                           Your right Mudd don't read all threads but always this one!!!
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #14152 on: July 10, 2013, 08:13:00 PM »
Mudd is there anything between the laminations?

It looks like there is a very thin black and white stripe between each lam of bamboo and it looks great

Btw I am a huge fan of white glass awesome bow

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #14153 on: July 10, 2013, 08:24:00 PM »
Charlie,
What do you useto grind your limb profile?

Mudd
Love the side view your bow BOW, it dose look like there are black layers between the lambs?

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #14154 on: July 10, 2013, 10:23:00 PM »
The white & black strips are Wenge & White bamboo grind to .018, Also wenge incase the myrdle wood riser. All wenge fadeout. white bamboo runs next to the yew taper.

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #14155 on: July 10, 2013, 10:33:00 PM »
Green,

I guess I missed the question. All I know is that the guy credited with first coming off the handle with drastic dips was named Buchanon. Hence the term Buchanon dips.
That's all the information I have. May ask for more info over on the History and Collecting forum.
Hunt Sharp

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #14156 on: July 10, 2013, 10:39:00 PM »
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What do you use to grind your limb profile?  
Most of my shop tools are multi purpose for economy sake... space and monetary. I have a belt sander mounted on it's side on a bench and do the heavy grinding off the end of that. It's very agressive with a 36 grit belt. Then I true things up on the side of the belt.

You can see it in a post I made earlier about tapering arrow shafts.
Hunt Sharp

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #14157 on: July 11, 2013, 03:55:00 AM »
Thanks for that info Charlie.
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #14158 on: July 11, 2013, 05:21:00 AM »
Matt,
James Buchanan is the bowyer credited with building proud, or thickening the handle of English long bows sometime in the 1880s, this eliminated most of the bending of the bow through the handle area. "Buchanan dips" are frowned upon by some "true" English warbow makers, but they are much needed to get to the American glassed version.
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #14159 on: July 11, 2013, 05:31:00 AM »
Thanks for fleshing that out Chuck!
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