My wife's quiver keeps itself angled and between the shoulder blades. the arrows are just behind and past the ear and very easy to get at, no wrestling or tight strap involved. My own are Schulz Hill and Miller quivers and the arrows tend to be more off the shoulder. I seen lots of times where big bodied guys with small quivers get to chasing them around their backs if the strap is too loose. then if it does slip around a little downward tug at the strap will keep it in position for a few shots. The elbow bump works for smaller people with quivers that can be pushed into position with just a couple of inches of adjustment needed to get the arrows to come up and around. I would say that Mudd, you need a longer quiver if you want it to hang like a Hill quiver and a soft one that flattens out to your back contours. However, you would like the way my wife's quiver works better. I do not remember who made it, it is a fancy thing with snake skins insets, fur lined and embroidered leather. Every time I touch it she says "what are you doing, that's mine."