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Author Topic: HH bug got me ... Part One!  (Read 153839 times)

Offline swampthing

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #3000 on: May 30, 2011, 07:09:00 PM »
Look at the Schulz Naturals, they are more circular at the fades.

Offline xbmedic

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #3001 on: May 30, 2011, 07:21:00 PM »
I never thought about making them any other way. I just did them the way Dick Wightman did them. I will try to find pictures of the Schulz Naturals. Thanks for the pointers guys!
Al Braun
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Offline Dick in Seattle

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #3002 on: May 30, 2011, 08:28:00 PM »
Couple of things...

If I understand your question, I do feather the fades in, also the power lams.  I try to get them transparent thin.. don't always succeed!  

I'm going to try a more tear drop shaped back of the riser in the near future and see what that does for my consistency.

I just got back from the Western Regional.  Great trip, though very tough courses, physically.  Did some good shooting and got a lot of favorable comment on my bows, including from some professionals I really respect, so I guess I'm making progress.

Big event was that I was surprised with the gift of the prototype of Kirk's new D longbow, The Boot Hill".  68" and 30@28, zebra belly and riser and carbon back.  The carbon makes it a "Magnum".  There'll also be an Express, non-carbon.  It's one fast longbow!  Took me awhile to get zeroed in with it.

I just finished posting a pic page on the shoot to my web site, includes pix of the bow.  Here's a link:

  http://tinyurl.com/3grxp25
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Offline Shinken

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #3003 on: May 30, 2011, 08:48:00 PM »
Great photos Dick!

Thank you for sharin' your trip, the 3D shots, and your new Magnum Outlaw!  Sweet!

It would be fun to check that bow out some time!

Enjoy!

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Offline Looper

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #3004 on: May 30, 2011, 09:13:00 PM »
After I did the Tradgang Fun Shoot, I decided to back up a ways and shoot the 4 arrows.  I ended up shooting from about 36 steps.  
The bow is a Hill Halfbreed, 69", 45#@29", I pull it close to 31", so it's about 51# at my draw.  Those arrows are some new cedars I got from Magnus.  They're 55-60 spine with 125 grain field tips.  They weigh right around 550 grains.  

I also have a set of 60-65 Surewoods that shoot really nicely with 145 grain heads.  They weigh around 620 grains, and, amazingly, hit right with the lighter cedars out to about 40 yards.

I think I'll end up using the Surewoods as my main hunting arrows.  They are a little more durable, and seem to hit harder.  For some reason, I shoot the heavier arrows better, too.

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #3005 on: May 30, 2011, 10:08:00 PM »
Al someone sent me a photo as one example of what can be done at the fades.

There may be other methods as well but I don't know what they are.

Shucks! I didn't even think that I knew of this one.

But the second I saw the picture I remembered seeing this bow picture before.

I think I just missed that detail since there was anything to draw my eye to it.

 

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Offline xbmedic

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #3006 on: May 30, 2011, 10:17:00 PM »
That looks great! I have to see if I can do something cool like that on the next one! Thanks, Mudd!
Al Braun
Hilo, HI

Offline Looper

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #3007 on: May 31, 2011, 03:37:00 AM »
That bow doesn't have belly glass on it, does it? At least not running up the fades?

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #3008 on: May 31, 2011, 05:49:00 AM »
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That bow doesn't have belly glass on it, does it? At least not running up the fades?
Looper,

That is a pic of Spanky's bow I believe.  If so, it does not have glass on the belly....hence the title "natural" but Nate builds many all glass bows that would look identical on the belly...just with clear glass.

Offline Looper

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #3009 on: May 31, 2011, 11:43:00 AM »
Interesting.

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #3010 on: May 31, 2011, 12:27:00 PM »
So, does the fiberglass not have to go on top of a flat surface?

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #3011 on: May 31, 2011, 05:54:00 PM »
Looper,

Yes, the glass needs a flat surface...
here are a couple examples that show the clear glass on the belly:


 

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #3012 on: May 31, 2011, 06:13:00 PM »
Beautiful bows.  So how can you have a arch at the end of the fades and it still be flat?  Is the fade recessed into the lam below it?

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #3013 on: May 31, 2011, 06:59:00 PM »
Looper...

It is the linear surface that must be flat (not concave/convex/rounded or otherwise bumpy)...and the clear glass is one continuous piece from the limb tip to the point where you see it (or don't see it) going over the fades, up the sweep to the point where it appears to touch (or slip under) the leather wrap.

I guess the best thing I can tell you here is "a picture is worth a thousand words"

Offline xbmedic

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #3014 on: May 31, 2011, 07:07:00 PM »
Those are beautiful, Tony or should I say, those are beautiful, Nate! Wow!
Al Braun
Hilo, HI

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #3015 on: May 31, 2011, 10:15:00 PM »
I pray for the timid souls of any lost recurve guys who accidentally happen upon this thread.

They may not know it in their hearts yet, but if they have read much of this, and of what is yet to come, they are surely and enexorably hooked by the lure of a Hill bow.

. . . especially if they hunt.

(Much, the Miller's son, would be proud.)

images no wider than 640, please

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #3016 on: May 31, 2011, 11:25:00 PM »
Rik, What do you have in you sights?  Looks like a goat.

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #3017 on: May 31, 2011, 11:38:00 PM »
Rik that is one cool photo!
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Offline Rik

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #3018 on: June 01, 2011, 01:31:00 PM »
Oops, I thought I had resized that photo, but apparently not. I will try again.

This is a screen shot from a high-resolution DVD filmed in Australia. This hunt is featured on Wayne Preece's Adrenaline Rush II, which has just been released. Right now, they only have PAl versions of the video available, but in the next week or so should have NTSC versions available.

I have not seen the DVD yet, but they did send me a 30-second clip of me sneaking up and shooting my second ram (see screen capture below.) A PAL version is in the mail right now. I am looking forward to it. Apparently, I am the first traditional bowhunter featured in one of Wayne's videos. And if I remember right, I talk a little bit about Howard Hill and Hill bows. We'll see if that part made the cut.

 

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #3019 on: June 01, 2011, 09:05:00 PM »
Luckily I got one of Nate's masterpieces ordered before he had to stop taking orders to catch up. I just found that he will be starting mine soon. I'll post pics when it arrives.
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