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Author Topic: HH bug got me ... Part One!  (Read 151749 times)

Offline longbowben

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #460 on: January 21, 2011, 10:38:00 PM »
Cant wait to see it .Congrats  :thumbsup:
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #461 on: January 21, 2011, 10:44:00 PM »
Thnx for arrows heads up RC !
Looking foward to seeing you bow with some hogs pics ...
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #462 on: January 21, 2011, 10:49:00 PM »
Congrats, can't wait for the pics.
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #463 on: January 21, 2011, 11:00:00 PM »
Sounds like a purty one RC...can't wait to see it!  :coffee:
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #464 on: January 21, 2011, 11:58:00 PM »
way to go RC!!  post it up when u can.

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #465 on: January 22, 2011, 01:14:00 AM »
Last night I took out my copy of Hitting them like Howard Hill by John Schulz, in chapter 5 page 34 Mr. Schulz says that his favorite hunting bow is 68" long, and his draw was 26".     I beleive it is a preference what length one uses but i prefer my bows to be 68" or 70" long.                                                                                     Darren
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #466 on: January 22, 2011, 05:44:00 AM »
Darren,
According to what Schultz has for a preference, I can't imagine that even a 68"er will be good for me as I draw 29"+ depending on what bow I am shooting.

Does it seem logical then for me to order a 70"er?  I think Rob shoots 68" and we both have the same draw.

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #467 on: January 22, 2011, 05:52:00 AM »
with me and hill style longbows, depends on the individual bow.  it's mostly in the tillering.  typically, 68" lengths are fine for me.  a few weren't and should have been 70".  when in doubt, i'd go 70" for a 29" draw.  the big 5 i just ordered is 68", the miller tom is 70".  got both bases covered.  

after all, it's only money and time ....     :saywhat:       :cool:
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #468 on: January 22, 2011, 06:01:00 AM »
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Originally posted by Rob DiStefano:
yes, i agree ... i haven't found a "hill style" longbow less than 68" ntn that felt "right" on the draw, hold and release for a true 29" draw (to the front of the shelf).  depending on the design and build, sometimes 68" and sometimes 70".  all depends on the parameters and TILLERING.
Rob, based on the parameters you suggested for me in your PM, and considering my 29" (heavy sometimes) draw, should I be thinking of a minimum 70" in the Tembo or the Wesley Special?

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #469 on: January 22, 2011, 06:13:00 AM »
fwiw - after the 68" big5 and 70" ol tom arrive, and now that i'm a bonafide member of nate's loooong sunset hill list   :saywhat:     :)  , my next longbow will be a 70" t/d tembo.  i had a 68" tembo years ago and really liked it lots, and a t/d sleeve will be practical for my yearly flyaway hunts.

stay tuned later this year, the classifieds will have some longbows peppered here and there.   :D
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #470 on: January 22, 2011, 08:20:00 AM »
....considering my 29" (heavy sometimes) draw, should I be thinking of a minimum 70" in the Tembo or the Wesley Special? ...


Go by the selected bowyers recommendations. Based on my experience I would say that 70" would be fine with bows from Craig or Steve Turay as they use much longer risers, thus have shorter working limbs, than bows from Nate, or David Miller. The bowyer should steer you right based upon what you want out of the bow!

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #471 on: January 22, 2011, 08:57:00 AM »
Tony, I think the answer you are looking for is a bow that is tillered with the limbs whip ended will present them selves with a steep string angle at full draw giving it a feeling of stacking.  A person with your longer draw length would be better served with a limb tillered with much less movement in the tips.  More of a crescent look at full draw.

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #472 on: January 22, 2011, 09:06:00 AM »
Spanky, I'll do just that when I get home.  I have learned tons of important stuff in the past two days that might just rekindle my love for the longbow as it was in the days I embraced the tradition.  

And, of course it really does not matter the cost if I can manage to capture that "perfect" one..

I have owned and shot so many different bows in my life but have always felt a kinship with the one Howard shot....crazy I know, but true indeed!

The only other bow I consider truly priceless was one that my friend OL Adcock made for me years ago.  Not because it was a good shooter (it truly was a blast to shoot) but because it was made by a good friend.

I am happy to have had the chance to meet you all here.  Will follow you guys around like a puppy 'till I can truly shoot 'em like Howard.

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #473 on: January 22, 2011, 10:30:00 AM »
Macatawa-
 For your draw I would go with the 70", you could shoot the 68" but the 70" will be perfect.

Someone told me this one time about long limbs:

They said, If two kids are on a see-saw, and one of the kids is fat, it would be much easier to pickup the fat kid with a longer see-saw then a short see-saw.

Howard Hill talks about longer limbs on his bows in Hunting the Hardway. His book has lots of useful information; it covers the bow design, his style of shooting and hunting. I've had my copy for almost 20years and I still go through it and reference what Hill actual said.

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #474 on: January 22, 2011, 11:27:00 AM »
I'm on here looking for the pictures of RC's new-to-him Hill bow.

Has anyone seen it yet?

I hope he isn't waiting until later today until after he's killed a couple of hogs and a few deer long with a mess of squirrels before he posts pictures...lol

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #475 on: January 22, 2011, 11:32:00 AM »
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #476 on: January 22, 2011, 11:33:00 AM »
I pull 29" and my Owl and Tembo both shoot just fine. My 70" Redman now, she's as smooth as butter! A little lighter in weight but on the pull, I can feel the difference.
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #477 on: January 22, 2011, 11:36:00 AM »
I have to say that this forum is awesome and the wealth of information/insight has helped me immensely over the two years since my forage into traditional archery.  This thread is no exception.  

I am in the market for my first Hill Style longbow and have been on the fence for a while largely due to deciding bow length.  I have decided on a Tembo and want it built with stringfollow.  I am 5'8" with small hands and a 26" draw and find myself going back and forth between a 64" length or a 66". Any suggestions?

Craig.

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #478 on: January 22, 2011, 11:37:00 AM »
much as we'd like to see them a bunch shorter like their mild r/d cousins, without a doubt longer is better with hill style longbows.  short risers + long limbs = overall goodyness.
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #479 on: January 22, 2011, 11:38:00 AM »
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I have to say that this forum is awesome and the wealth of information/insight has helped me immensely over the two years since my forage into traditional archery.  This thread is no exception.  

I am in the market for my first Hill Style longbow and have been on the fence for a while largely due to deciding bow length.  I have decided on a Tembo and want it built with stringfollow.  I am 5'8" with small hands and a 26" draw and find myself going back and forth between a 64" length or a 66". Any suggestions?

Craig.
my advice is if yer ridin' the length fence, always opt longer for the safer bet.
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