Can you all guess when the first canoe race happened? The day they built the second canoe. My problem is if I have a real clean, gentle in the hand and fast shooting bow, then if I get a bow that is not clean, gentle and fast that is about the same poundage, in short time that slow rough shooting bow will be slimmer, lighter pulling, and hopefully gentle in the hand and faster for its poundage, but if the bow gains accuracy and is more pleasant to shoot I am happy, regardless of the speed.. On the other hand, my old Pete George yew was never as fast as my Schulz Legend,(no other Hill style longbow is as fast at my draw), but it is still a great shooting bow and I have never been tempted to change it. When we compared the Pete George yews to my Schulz, my son declared that they were slowing down. At 9 grains per pound and hitting the 180s for me and a bit more with same arrows with his 28" draw, I think they are doing fine. I have another bow that 15 fps slower, a few pounds lighter, but it is a perfect shooting bow and I will not change it. Enough speed is enough and the old shoot under the twig argument can be made, I suppose the old lob it over the twig argument has its place as well.